Yes, I had planned it that way. FMOs might be souped up a bit.david.beholder wrote:Are we atill gonna have both FMO and OSC?
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From my customer perspective FMO always looked like a crutch. May be it's time to have FM on OSC?Urs wrote:Yes, I had planned it that way. FMOs might be souped up a bit.david.beholder wrote:Are we atill gonna have both FMO and OSC?
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- KVRAF
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??david.beholder wrote:From my customer perspective FMO always looked like a crutch. May be it's time to have FM on OSC?Urs wrote:Yes, I had planned it that way. FMOs might be souped up a bit.david.beholder wrote:Are we atill gonna have both FMO and OSC?
It's a completely different kind of oscillator. It would be far more confusing to cram them both together. You want to do FM synthesis, go with the FM osc. You want to do Subtractive, go with the others. What's the crutch here?
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There are totally no confusion -- oscillator is oscillator. Borders like go FM or go Subtractive are illusonary.mholloway wrote: It's a completely different kind of oscillator. It would be far more confusing to cram them both together. You want to do FM synthesis, go with the FM osc. You want to do Subtractive, go with the others. What's the crutch here?
And why there is no FM on OSC we're yet to know from Urs.
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CPU considerations... which are a thing still for FM with 4+ operators. So it'll be optional in Z3's standard oscillators, with and extra set of dedicated FM oscillators (possibly souped up to a Buchla-style Complex Oscillator pair).david.beholder wrote:And why there is no FM on OSC we're yet to know from Urs.
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- KVRAF
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Urs wrote:CPU considerations... which are a thing still for FM with 4+ operators. So it'll be optional in Z3's standard oscillators, with and extra set of dedicated FM oscillators (possibly souped up to a Buchla-style Complex Oscillator pair).david.beholder wrote:And why there is no FM on OSC we're yet to know from Urs.
helloooo! that sounds fun and awesome.
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Gotcha. I thought it because of high aliasing of non-sine waveformsUrs wrote: CPU considerations... which are a thing still for FM with 4+ operators. So it'll be optional in Z3's standard oscillators, with and extra set of dedicated FM oscillators (possibly souped up to a Buchla-style Complex Oscillator pair).
And I'm not really sure what is Buchla-style Complex Oscillator pair (researching now) but I'm sure everyone on this forum wants it.
And if someone doesn't please ban him/her
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Lovely
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- KVRian
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Urs - have you given any thought into how combfilters might work in Z3 ? Is there anything more that can be done compared to Z2? Maybe more flavours or more ways to customize the flavour? I find comb filters highly fascinating.
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- KVRist
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Sorry to ask this question, but don't the 6-8+ core + 12-16 thread CPUs do good nowdays? AMD threadripper will be out soon, can't any of those extra cores be put in good use in these synths?Urs wrote:CPU considerations... which are a thing still for FM with 4+ operators. So it'll be optional in Z3's standard oscillators, with and extra set of dedicated FM oscillators (possibly souped up to a Buchla-style Complex Oscillator pair).david.beholder wrote:And why there is no FM on OSC we're yet to know from Urs.
I'd like to think that if the trend becomes popular enough, Apple would implement macs with multi cores too (I use PC tho).
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Is out today! 12 cores - 800, 16 cores - 1000, motherboards are starting at $300.SiliconDeath wrote:AMD threadripper will be out soon
So do I and I like to see AMD well and healty and prices going down.SiliconDeath wrote:I use PC tho
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- KVRist
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The amd ryzen with 8c16t should also be pretty good/inexpensive , cheaper than 4-6core intel
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I think I'm going for 12 core on christmas. But yeah, 8 core gonna be decent too with such a good performance as on Ryzen core.SiliconDeath wrote:The amd ryzen with 8c16t should also be pretty good/inexpensive , cheaper than 4-6core intel
Diva on Ryzen thread viewtopic.php?f=31&t=480801
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