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david.beholder wrote:Are we atill gonna have both FMO and OSC?
Yes, I had planned it that way. FMOs might be souped up a bit.

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Urs wrote:
david.beholder wrote:Are we atill gonna have both FMO and OSC?
Yes, I had planned it that way. FMOs might be souped up a bit.
From my customer perspective FMO always looked like a crutch. May be it's time to have FM on OSC?
Murderous duck!

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david.beholder wrote:
Urs wrote:
david.beholder wrote:Are we atill gonna have both FMO and OSC?
Yes, I had planned it that way. FMOs might be souped up a bit.
From my customer perspective FMO always looked like a crutch. May be it's time to have FM on OSC?
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It's a completely different kind of oscillator. It would be far more confusing to cram them both together. You want to do FM synthesis, go with the FM osc. You want to do Subtractive, go with the others. What's the crutch here?

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mholloway wrote: It's a completely different kind of oscillator. It would be far more confusing to cram them both together. You want to do FM synthesis, go with the FM osc. You want to do Subtractive, go with the others. What's the crutch here?
There are totally no confusion -- oscillator is oscillator. Borders like go FM or go Subtractive are illusonary.

And why there is no FM on OSC we're yet to know from Urs.
Murderous duck!

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david.beholder wrote:And why there is no FM on OSC we're yet to know from Urs.
CPU considerations... which are a thing still for FM with 4+ operators. So it'll be optional in Z3's standard oscillators, with and extra set of dedicated FM oscillators (possibly souped up to a Buchla-style Complex Oscillator pair).

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Urs wrote:
david.beholder wrote:And why there is no FM on OSC we're yet to know from Urs.
CPU considerations... which are a thing still for FM with 4+ operators. So it'll be optional in Z3's standard oscillators, with and extra set of dedicated FM oscillators (possibly souped up to a Buchla-style Complex Oscillator pair).

helloooo! that sounds fun and awesome.

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Urs wrote: CPU considerations... which are a thing still for FM with 4+ operators. So it'll be optional in Z3's standard oscillators, with and extra set of dedicated FM oscillators (possibly souped up to a Buchla-style Complex Oscillator pair).
Gotcha. I thought it because of high aliasing of non-sine waveforms ;) Thanks for good news about optional FM on OSC.

And I'm not really sure what is Buchla-style Complex Oscillator pair (researching now) but I'm sure everyone on this forum wants it.
And if someone doesn't please ban him/her :party:
Murderous duck!

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Lovely
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Urs - have you given any thought into how combfilters might work in Z3 ? Is there anything more that can be done compared to Z2? Maybe more flavours or more ways to customize the flavour? I find comb filters highly fascinating.

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Will Zebra 3 have filters on the level of Repro-1?

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Urs wrote:possibly even for wavetable Oscs as well as for dedicated FMO-style ones.
I'm horrified. :-o :shock: :-o

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Urs wrote:
david.beholder wrote:And why there is no FM on OSC we're yet to know from Urs.
CPU considerations... which are a thing still for FM with 4+ operators. So it'll be optional in Z3's standard oscillators, with and extra set of dedicated FM oscillators (possibly souped up to a Buchla-style Complex Oscillator pair).
Sorry to ask this question, but don't the 6-8+ core + 12-16 thread CPUs do good nowdays? AMD threadripper will be out soon, can't any of those extra cores be put in good use in these synths?

I'd like to think that if the trend becomes popular enough, Apple would implement macs with multi cores too (I use PC tho).

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SiliconDeath wrote:AMD threadripper will be out soon
Is out today! 12 cores - 800, 16 cores - 1000, motherboards are starting at $300.
SiliconDeath wrote:I use PC tho
So do I and I like to see AMD well and healty and prices going down.
Murderous duck!

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The amd ryzen with 8c16t should also be pretty good/inexpensive , cheaper than 4-6core intel

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SiliconDeath wrote:The amd ryzen with 8c16t should also be pretty good/inexpensive , cheaper than 4-6core intel
I think I'm going for 12 core on christmas. But yeah, 8 core gonna be decent too with such a good performance as on Ryzen core.

Diva on Ryzen thread viewtopic.php?f=31&t=480801
Murderous duck!

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