Pretty sure none do. Since when does KVR host our installers? Link pls.mevla wrote:How many Linux users download their u-he synths from KVR ? I sure did.
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Pretty sure none do. Since when does KVR host our installers? Link pls.mevla wrote:How many Linux users download their u-he synths from KVR ? I sure did.
I'm pretty sure he's referring to this thread :#rob wrote:Pretty sure none do. Since when does KVR host our installers? Link pls.mevla wrote:How many Linux users download their u-he synths from KVR ? I sure did.
Is there support for the linux version? Most developers, when they make some software available on linux, don't offer support. Always "use at your own risk", no support.#rob wrote:We also get a feeling for it by how many eMails we receive to our support system. There have been eMails along the lines of "thank you for supporting Linux" or "it doesn't work on my distro, what am I doing wrong", but those accumulate to maybe 1-3 every month. We get more Windows specific support requests every hour.yellowmix wrote:Urs said he was going by "downloads".
I also downloaded the windows versions while I was on the site because I still have a windows running in a VM for older projects. The Linux version is the only one that gets regular use though. So I was counted twice and I don't think that I'm the only one.Yeah, and those links all point to our CDN which lets us see the stats about how often which files were downloaded.
Well, dang, if you guys would make a poorly-designed product then I'd have something to complain about to the support system. But no, Urs & Co. seem dedicated to producing stable high-quality great-sounding ergonomical good-looking reasonably-priced musically-provocative plugins that simply refuse to f*ck up. What's a satisfied user to do...#rob wrote:We also get a feeling for it by how many eMails we receive to our support system...
Even if we factored out 1000 downloads for Windows and Mac each, to allow for users potentially using Linux plus another platform like yourself, that still wouldn't tilt the stats into the direction of Linux in any way whatsoever. Not even slightly.Benutzername wrote:I also downloaded the windows versions while I was on the site because I still have a windows running in a VM for older projects.
This part made me chuckle a bit.Benutzername wrote:ChromeOS (=Linux)
Android (=Linux)
You know, it's kinda funny. When I went through my IT training (for lack of a better word) in 2002, people said exactly the same thing. "Linux already took over the server market, it's going to overtake Windows and MacOS soon!" Fast forward, 15 years later. Still didn't happen. The only ones preaching that "the holy age of Linux is nigh" are still the same people who preached it 15 years ago. Linux users.Benutzername wrote:being ready for Linux is not a bad idea at all for a software company in this day and age.
Ardour/Mixbus, Tracktion, LMMS, Renoise, KXStudio, Carla, energyXT, Qtractor, Audacity... do I really have to continue? VST capable audio applications have been around on Linux forever, that's hardly a lack of DAWs now, is it.ejgallego wrote:Well, certainly Linux user numbers have to be low as until recently there was not real DAW available for Linux
"Hi, just wanted to let you know how stoked I am that you're FINALLY supporting my operating system of choice. Please keep it up, we need quality software like yours on Linux. I posted about your software in my Linux Audio Production Forum Of Choice, and constantly defend it against the raging F(L)OSS hordes there. Thank you guys so much, and kudos to whoever did the coding! xoxo Satisfied User X"StudioDave wrote:What's a satisfied user to do...
Oh, no question over that, but different "install cultures" among the systems should be pointed out.#rob wrote:that still wouldn't tilt the stats into the direction of Linux in any way whatsoever. Not even slightly.
Well, that's a bit unfair in that indeed in 15 years we have seen quite large positive evolution wrt Linux and standards support. Even Microsoft ships now a "Linux" subsystem, and Linux / OSX is the standard enviroment in many fields there days.#rob wrote: You know, it's kinda funny. When I went through my IT training (for lack of a better word) in 2002, people said exactly the same thing. "Linux already took over the server market, it's going to overtake Windows and MacOS soon!" Fast forward, 15 years later. Still didn't happen. The only ones preaching that "the holy age of Linux is nigh" are still the same people who preached it 15 years ago. Linux users.![]()
With the most respect to these amazing applications, they can hardly be even compared to Cubase, Protools, or Ableton. As much as I am a Linux user and love Linux I am not gonna confuse amateur-quality vs professional quality apps.#rob wrote: Ardour/Mixbus, Tracktion, LMMS, Renoise, KXStudio, Carla, energyXT, Qtractor, Audacity... do I really have to continue? VST capable audio applications have been around on Linux forever, that's hardly a lack of DAWs now, is it.![]()
I was not talking about spirit, I was talking about market share because everybody seems to think that 2% on the desktop market is too low to care.*#rob wrote:This part made me chuckle a bit.Benutzername wrote:ChromeOS (=Linux)
Android (=Linux)
ChromeOS and Android may be *nix based, but they're highly commercialized products. CI branded by Google, shipped with non FOSS components and targeted at specific hardware, or licensed for lots of money. Not so much in the real F(L)OSS Linux spirit, is it? Not any more than OSX or Windows, anyway.
Yes, Bitwig on Linux also gave me a jump forward. Before that I was using Ardour and could not have an easy workflow to create, way too laborious. Bitwig changed all that. Bitwig gave the incentive to be more 'serious' about the music I create. And then I got Mixbus32C for mixing. Creating with Bitwig, mixing with Mixbus32C gives good results I find, even though I'm still learning about mixing. I'm using u-he audio plugins, OvertoneDSP, Harrison and Tracktion. Synths are u-he, Tracktion Biotek and Discovery Pro. From the courses I follow (given using ProTools on MAC) I find there's everything in this Linux setup to come up with good audio. Certainly not perfect, listen to some of the pieces in the signature below.ejgallego wrote: With the most respect to these amazing applications, they can hardly be even compared to Cubase, Protools, or Ableton. As much as I am a Linux user and love Linux I am not gonna confuse amateur-quality vs professional quality apps.
On the other hand, official VST support for Linux only happened very very recently.
I think I stand on my point: Linux is still very far from being a platform were professional music producers can work on; however, the jump in the last few years has been dramatic thanks mainly to BitWig + open source VST.
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