Does minimalism spur creativity?

[jancivil]

What is less creative than consulting the psychology department in order to define creativity. It's just such bullshit.

What does someone that has lower standards have to do with creativity per se? Or to say that perfectionism is, in itself a creativity killer. As though the quest for perfection (defined exactly the same for everyone, right) is tantamount to obsessive/compulsive disorder. I have to characterize myself as perfectionist or for some people 'standards are too high', as well as feeling a definite and pronounced need for a certain instrument for a role, but I learned long ago how to cut my losses and accept that not everything is perfectly controllable. We can't know what the next person's mind is necessarily.

[aciddose]

Try replacing the way you subjectively interpreted "lower standards" with "lower your insanely high hurdles to a height that is possible for you to accomplish." More importantly you need to recognize that the point you set your "standard" is entirely arbitrary and meaningless.

Regarding "perfection", nice job completely ignoring the point I was making. I don't feel there is any point in trying to explain the same thing again when it's trivial to understand.

Sigh I can't help it.

Or to say that perfectionism is, in itself a creativity killer. As though the quest for perfection (UNdefined exactly the same for everyone, right) is tantamount to obsessive/compulsive disorder.

FTFY.

Aiming for perfection, an abstract concept completely devoid of any objective, concrete meaning is equal to being aimless. Not surprisingly the outcome is generally to miss the target completely.

You can't have "perfect creation" because creation is the process of making what is abstract, concrete. You can have a "perfect copy" by defining objective measures based upon a concrete instance, much like a "perfect inch (give or take 1 micron)". Such perfection however is the exact inverse of creativity.

Now I've just fully repeated myself...

[aciddose]

... I learned long ago how to cut my losses ...

That's the negative way to look at it. The creative way to view things is to focus on the positive aspect instead. You aren't "cutting losses", you're "reaping rewards".

[Googly Smythe]

Hmm.
Since creativity and creativeness, and the means toward them, are different for each individual, I thought I'd chip in.
I have about 25 vstis, including the likes of HALion, a few sample libraries and about 200 processors of one sort or another.
But my creativity begins with an inspiration, or an idea, before I even turn on my computer. I know my gear fairly well and know what to use to realise that inspiration. And that, I think, is what art, of any kind, is really about. Inspiration. I believe I was just as creative back when all I had was an acoustic guitar as I am now. And vice versa.
Even now, I will map out an idea on my electric guitar - without even plugging it in.
If you're inspired, no amount of equipment, or lack thereof, will hinder you.
This doesn't mean I don't spend hours just fiddling around. I think of it as a learning experience.
I wonder if creativity is just a euphemism for quantity.

[Woodgardens]

I suppose it comes down to what inspires people. However, even when one has good ideas, it takes a while to get creative; first one has to know their musical environment.

The more one knows their environment, the greater the chances one gets creative, I assume. First one has to investigate the environment. There is no way around that given point.

And this is where 99.9% of the enthusiasts go wrong IMHO. They invest in a lot of stuff, but little effort goes into their environment. Because when one invests in their environment and learn its limits first, then one can find ways to breaks these limits. And thus set new limits. As simple as it sounds... it could take a lifetime though.

And when one actually breaks those limits, and they inspire on their turn others, then one gets famous. Obviously there is contemporary fame and real fame. Real fame (=inspiration) never dies. No matter how hard the Jaws of Time are grinding on it. Jawohl!

[jancivil]

I donno. First track I realized this year I did at the main public library. Next 4 I did in Peet's Coffee.
I kind of invested in that buying coffees throughout the day.

I hadn't heard it in decades. That reversed guitar solo is absolute genius. Huge influence. Heard it probably dozens of times blazing (ca 45 yrs ago).

[jancivil]

I wonder if creativity is just a euphemism for quantity.

I think, as per the remarks asserting having lower standards lends to creativity and perfectionism kills it that rather looks the case isn't it.

[Woodgardens]

But first...

Are you experienced?

[jancivil]

I heard that track at the other Peet's. Then I heard it in the main public library.
Inspiring track!

hadn't heard it in decades. That reverse guitar is absolutely genius. Tripped to it probably dozens of times in the day.

[Woodgardens]

Outtakes of 'Fire':

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DbVLOdtakqA

It's kind of funny to hear this. Things didn't come easy it seems.

[jancivil]

some false takes? seems normal to me.

When I had drum lessons (drum kit) this is what I brought in that I wanted to learn.
He made me write it all out and really learn what makes the part. Invaluable lesson.
Hendrix had just played Charlotte (May 9, 1969), I went, the teacher saw it too.
He liked Danny Seraphim Seraphine (Chicago, opening act) better than Mitch Mitchell, I did not agree.
I was not yet 13 then (my mother went with). I still would like Mitchell better.

[jancivil]

Take 5 def sounds like the drum part; so does the guitar solo. 5 takes is not a lot.

[Woodgardens]

Lol I tried to figure the sustained chords (at 1:00 in the original track) and it gave me a headache; first I had no clue what the guy was doing.

[ATN69]

I joined the KVR OSC a number of times and that for sure is minimalism. You have no choice but to create the best you can do from one synth. In my case it surely got my creativity going. In contrast to that I also find that having a large quantity of sounds at your disposal also spark creativity, at least for me. A sound or a beat can get me a long way.

[Hink]

but in order to compete in the OSC on a regular basis one would have to have a rather healthy collection of synths, the irony.