Tone2 I2 vs Trueno Analog

[rod_zero]

Yeah of course we will have to wait how this comes out, but even if the launch is succesful which might be quite possible the real test is ahead, in the following years as sales go down and updates show their ugly face.

As for what I would expected to read something like "Our company will be commited to maintenance of the software required for trueno to work on latest OS".

Unlike Elektron machines or the virus Ti, Trueno doesn't work without a computer, so software development is crucial.

software plugins don't work without a computer, so software development is crucial. you've made up a whole future for something none of us have even yet seen...

way to miss the point: a new company selling HW which needs software to work might not be aware of the development costs ahead.

I am just pointing out the real problem for a product like this, since other that have tried have struggled to get it right.

[fisherKing]

Yeah of course we will have to wait how this comes out, but even if the launch is succesful which might be quite possible the real test is ahead, in the following years as sales go down and updates show their ugly face.

As for what I would expected to read something like "Our company will be commited to maintenance of the software required for trueno to work on latest OS".

Unlike Elektron machines or the virus Ti, Trueno doesn't work without a computer, so software development is crucial.

software plugins don't work without a computer, so software development is crucial. you've made up a whole future for something none of us have even yet seen...

way to miss the point: a new company selling HW which needs software to work might not be aware of the development costs ahead.

I am just pointing out the real problem for a product like this, since other that have tried have struggled to get it right.

you're guessing that the company hasn't thought ahead, and assuming that they won't get it right.

[VariKusBrainZ]

Yeah of course we will have to wait how this comes out, but even if the launch is succesful which might be quite possible the real test is ahead, in the following years as sales go down and updates show their ugly face.

As for what I would expected to read something like "Our company will be commited to maintenance of the software required for trueno to work on latest OS".

Unlike Elektron machines or the virus Ti, Trueno doesn't work without a computer, so software development is crucial.

software plugins don't work without a computer, so software development is crucial. you've made up a whole future for something none of us have even yet seen...

way to miss the point: a new company selling HW which needs software to work might not be aware of the development costs ahead.

I am just pointing out the real problem for a product like this, since other that have tried have struggled to get it right.

you're guessing that the company hasn't thought ahead, and assuming that they won't get it right.

All it takes is an OS update to break the driver compatability

[fisherKing]

Yeah of course we will have to wait how this comes out, but even if the launch is succesful which might be quite possible the real test is ahead, in the following years as sales go down and updates show their ugly face.

As for what I would expected to read something like "Our company will be commited to maintenance of the software required for trueno to work on latest OS".

Unlike Elektron machines or the virus Ti, Trueno doesn't work without a computer, so software development is crucial.

software plugins don't work without a computer, so software development is crucial. you've made up a whole future for something none of us have even yet seen...

way to miss the point: a new company selling HW which needs software to work might not be aware of the development costs ahead.

I am just pointing out the real problem for a product like this, since other that have tried have struggled to get it right.

you're guessing that the company hasn't thought ahead, and assuming that they won't get it right.

All it takes is an OS update to break the driver compatability

right, and true for all software as well. so, a developer has to sometimes update their software to accomodate an OS update... and life goes on. been like that since forever.

[braj]

So, has anyone gotten their grubby paws on this thing yet? The proof is in the pudding, let's hear some reviews.

[fluffy_little_something]

Why did they call it Trueno? I know it means thunder, but why not call it Thunder when it is a British company, anyway?

[braj]

Why did they call it Trueno? I know it means thunder, but why not call it Thunder when it is a British company, anyway?

Because it's true analog, no?

[thecontrolcentre]

Why did they call it Trueno? I know it means thunder, but why not call it Thunder when it is a British company, anyway?

Because it's true analog, no?

Tru eno

[afta8]

Mine just arrived



First impressions.. packaging and overall build quality is really good, the filter sounds lovely.. so far testing in Renoise and can't see any presets browser in the GUI.. will post some samples when I have spent some time with it

[aciddose]

Okay, so why can't they make soft synths sound like that?

Like a cheesy boring old Juno? Well that's because soft synths are absolute trash.

If you like that sort of timbre I can highly recommend something like the MKS-70, although it would appear this particular unit utilizes 3xDCO with some odd wave-shaping capability (not certain it uses analog waveshaping at all.)

The MKS-70 has only 2xDCOs and severe limits on waveshaping functions. Another difference is the MKS-70 utilizes a "4x lossy-integrator cascade" filter, aka "moog" while this synthesizer on a USB-stick seems to use a Tow-Thomas biquad, which is related to Kerwin-Huelsman-Newcomb and Sallen-Key biquad filters and a minor rearrangement with slightly different timbre depending upon clamping/OTA structure.

[fisherKing]

Mine just arrived



First impressions.. packaging and overall build quality is really good, the filter sounds lovely.. so far testing in Renoise and can't see any presets browser in the GUI.. will post some samples when I have spent some time with it

nice! will be good to hear some real-world observations (versus the rants on this forum about things no one's seen...).

[EvilDragon]

If you like that sort of timbre I can highly recommend something like the MKS-70, although it would appear this particular unit utilizes 3xDCO with some odd wave-shaping capability (not certain it uses analog waveshaping at all.)

It's a VCO (why would they do their nomenclature wrong TWICE, on the website, and on the PCB silkscreening?!), since clocking them is not done digitally. Digital is just temperature compensation etc. Same as on Andromeda and Minilogue - frequency control is still voltage, not synced to an external frequency source.

I doubt it's any sort of waveshaping included. Most likely ROM waves fed through a DAC.

while this synthesizer on a USB-stick seems to use a Tow-Thomas biquad, which is related to Kerwin-Huelsman-Newcomb and Sallen-Key biquad filters and a minor rearrangement with slightly different timbre depending upon clamping/OTA structure.

Errr, this is a Polivoks inspired filter, which is a SVF done entirely with opamps, resistors, a single transistor, without a capacitor in sight... not a biquad? In fact, aren't biquad filters purely digital, non-existent in analog realm? Correct me if I'm wrong.

[egbert101]

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[ENV1]

Too bad that opening the chassis would void the warranty, id really like to see whats in there.

[elassi]

Why do I have an urge to knock over your coffee?

Because your desk never looks that clean?