Korg updates its Legacy Collection with a new Arp Odyssey emulation

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EvilDragon wrote:That unison doesn't seem to kill my CPU. 16 voices unison with all internal FX on and tons of drive and filter self-oscillating, at around 9% CPU usage in Reaper (i7-6700K at 4.5 GHz) :) Very manageable, Repro-5 is hungrier (at HQ and all FX.)
O.k. that sounds good. But you seems to have a powerful machine.
But maybe i should give the plug-in a try then since i can run 5-8 Repro with my set-up with MC and HQ. More with HQ off. And i mean 8 voices.
I just have a lame 2.0 Ghz i7 quadcore macbook from 2013 but at least it should handle then the same amount of instances of Odyssey. For pads and non-percussive sounds i also have no problem to go to 1024 buffer if that helps.
I would be quite happy to run 2-3 at 16 voices before freezing or bouncing.
I don´t need to demo the sound because i know that it sounds great but was so unsure about the performance. That gives me a bit hope :)
If Korg could add MC it would be of course a no brainer for me. I think these things doesn´t work in iOS yet and it seems clear that they ported the iOS version close to 1:1 but i do hope there will be updates for this.
I even consider the Collection which seems well priced since they say they will update them (i guess to the iOS versions) and the plug-ins including all the presets which are only available on iOS due to inn app purchases (i think for about $5 each).
So maybe it´s better as i thought.
If i now could see how big the GUI is on my macbook pro 15" retina.
I can see how the Gadget looks and not sure if the Arp Odyssey is the same.
However, i already see G.A.S. coming in early this year :o

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EvilDragon wrote:You should check out the RT CPU in Reaper's performance meter. Over here, with u-he plugins, total CPU goes up when MC is off, but RT CPU (that's the main audio thread - if that one falls over, you get crackles) goes DOWN. And that's what's important - MC button defintiely DOES do its work even with Reaper's regular processing benefits - you just see it in a different way.

If you don't see RT CPU in Reaper's performance meter, right-click in it for more options.
I don't see any performance meter, where is that hiding in that giant mess of options? 8)

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View->Performance Meter. Simple, huh? :D

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Cinebient wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:That unison doesn't seem to kill my CPU. 16 voices unison with all internal FX on and tons of drive and filter self-oscillating, at around 9% CPU usage in Reaper (i7-6700K at 4.5 GHz) :) Very manageable, Repro-5 is hungrier (at HQ and all FX.)
O.k. that sounds good. But you seems to have a powerful machine.
But maybe i should give the plug-in a try then since i can run 5-8 Repro with my set-up with MC and HQ. More with HQ off. And i mean 8 voices.
I just have a lame 2.0 Ghz i7 quadcore macbook from 2013 but at least it should handle then the same amount of instances of Odyssey.
2 GHz is slowing you down, no matter how many cores you have. Base core speed is still the most important thing.

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EvilDragon wrote:View->Performance Meter. Simple, huh? :D
OK, found it, thanks :)

The RT load indeed goes down with MC support on, from 28 to 19% with a fat chord.

Idle the RT load is already 12% with Repro, with Sylenth1 just 1% 8) (playing the same fat chord it is 19 vs 4.5%, and it surely doesn't sound 4x as good :hihi: ).

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Yep. It sounds about 20x better than Sylenth1 :P

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EvilDragon wrote:Yep. It sounds about 20x better than Sylenth1 :P
There is a zero too many :hihi:
Twice maybe, but 4x the CPU load, not sure that would make sense in the mix. Thanks for telling me about that RT meter, you saved me some money :hihi:

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Really loving the sound of the Odyssey. I'm a bit puzzled with some of the modulation & wondered if some kind soul could enlighten me please?

In Factory patch 003 VCO2's coarse frequency increases after a delay, as if it is being modulated by an envelope. I can not work out where this modulation is coming from. The online help isn't very informative :)

Thanks in advance
Paul

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EvilDragon wrote:
Cinebient wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:That unison doesn't seem to kill my CPU. 16 voices unison with all internal FX on and tons of drive and filter self-oscillating, at around 9% CPU usage in Reaper (i7-6700K at 4.5 GHz) :) Very manageable, Repro-5 is hungrier (at HQ and all FX.)
O.k. that sounds good. But you seems to have a powerful machine.
But maybe i should give the plug-in a try then since i can run 5-8 Repro with my set-up with MC and HQ. More with HQ off. And i mean 8 voices.
I just have a lame 2.0 Ghz i7 quadcore macbook from 2013 but at least it should handle then the same amount of instances of Odyssey.
2 GHz is slowing you down, no matter how many cores you have. Base core speed is still the most important thing.
Maybe, but Ghz is not everything if optimzed. I bet this old i7 still is much faster than my ARM iPhone chip......in theory.
I mean if tablets comes close to a macbook pro performance what is intel or developers doing wrong. Also my macbook gets hot and throttle. So should i wait for ARM notebooks (i mean from Apple)?
I know a desktop would be better but i like it mobile and a notebook is the biggest machine i ever going to use these days. I also know that this limits me here a bit but not as long as a light tablet or smartphone runs several instances fine.
Like i said, i can run several Repro´s, P900´s and 20 B2 reverbs.

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fluffy_little_something wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:Yep. It sounds about 20x better than Sylenth1 :P
There is a zero too many :hihi:
Twice maybe, but 4x the CPU load, not sure that would make sense in the mix. Thanks for telling me about that RT meter, you saved me some money :hihi:
So we measure sound now in Sylenths :D
Then i would say the Odyssey is 4,5x Sylenth, Zeeon is 5x Sylenth, Repro is 6x Sylenth and P900 is 10X Sylenth etc.
The Akai Timbre Wolf would be maybe 0,01x Sylenth :hihi:

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Cinebient wrote:Maybe, but Ghz is not everything if optimzed.
It absolutely is. Optimized code would just run even faster on it, but the fact is - the faster the base core clock, everything runs faster, giving you more instances, etc. etc.

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Cinebient wrote:So we measure sound now in Sylenths :D
Then i would say the Odyssey is 4,5x Sylenth, Zeeon is 5x Sylenth, Repro is 6x Sylenth and P900 is 10X Sylenth etc.
The Akai Timbre Wolf would be maybe 0,01x Sylenth :hihi:
:D

No, but it's the only quality synth I have, and a highly optimized one, so I compare everything else to it...

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virtualpt wrote:Really loving the sound of the Odyssey. I'm a bit puzzled with some of the modulation & wondered if some kind soul could enlighten me please?

In Factory patch 003 VCO2's coarse frequency increases after a delay, as if it is being modulated by an envelope. I can not work out where this modulation is coming from. The online help isn't very informative :)

Thanks in advance
Paul
Found it!! Didn't realize that there was an arpeggiator/sequencer hidden above the effects - scrolled & found it - LOL

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fluffy_little_something wrote:
Cinebient wrote:So we measure sound now in Sylenths :D
Then i would say the Odyssey is 4,5x Sylenth, Zeeon is 5x Sylenth, Repro is 6x Sylenth and P900 is 10X Sylenth etc.
The Akai Timbre Wolf would be maybe 0,01x Sylenth :hihi:
:D

No, but it's the only quality synth I have, and a highly optimized one, so I compare everything else to it...
Touche´ :wink:

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EvilDragon wrote:
Cinebient wrote:Maybe, but Ghz is not everything if optimzed.
It absolutely is. Optimized code would just run even faster on it, but the fact is - the faster the base core clock, everything runs faster, giving you more instances, etc. etc.
But aren´t new generations of i7 f.e. better as older with higher clock speed sometimes etc.
But i´m no expert here.
So i wonder if those 18 cores machines makes sense since they seems to have lower clock speed the more cores you get.
I was thinking about an upgrade to a new macbook (because i need to work with Logic) with the last i7 generation and 2,9Ghz i7.
Not sure if that would be worth it if that will at the end give the the usual 5% upgrades in performance........mmhhhhh, off topic, sorry.
Anyway, thank´s for your answer. Appreciated.
I think at least we all agree that Odyssey sounds great!

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