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Bad points.
This guy is unable to organize a reasonable testing within 14 days and then starts trolling developers like an offended child.
This is lowest category here on KVR!
If he simply asked „what can I do?“ and many gave him hints how to deal with it (as it happened), everything would’ve been okay.
This trolling in different threads isn‘t acceptable.
These are my 2 cents for improving civil behavior on KVR.

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martinjuenke wrote:If he simply asked „what can I do?“
Their system sucks, period! It's a waste of time, something I don't have! (and I don't have anymore time for you either so I won't be replying to your BS).

Meanwhile, even if I hate their system PA replied to me in less than 24 and the trial period has been reset. Bad system but good/fast customer service. Wasted a day though and sale is ending today.

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xx JPRacer xx wrote:
martinjuenke wrote:If he simply asked „what can I do?“
Their system sucks, period! It's a waste of time, something I don't have! (and I don't have anymore time for you either so I won't be replying to your BS).

Meanwhile, even if I hate their system PA replied to me in less than 24 and the trial period has been reset. Bad system but good/fast customer service. Wasted a day though and sale is ending today.
Plugin Alliance is obviously a gentleman company: treating trolling wannabes nicely...
:clap:

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No. He wasn' t trolling, just in rage, which also happens to Germans, despite their plans of a "My Little Pony" internet. He'll take a deep breath and 2018 will be a good year. Amen.

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Can we all just agree that iLok is worse? :hug:

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xx JPRacer xx wrote:
martinjuenke wrote: If you are not able to judge a plugin within 14 days then it‘s solely your problem.
Who said I tested for 14 days?
Noone said that. He said 'within 14 days'. Different thing.
That's the problem with the whole process. I tested for top 15-30 minutes and then had other obligations.

Some people do other things in life that is much more important than reserving full 14 days to test an audio plugin especially if music is just a hobby for them.
Hmmm. I cant help feeling that there's a cognitive dissonance between not significantly prioritising the time to test something for your hobby within a 14-day limit, your need for that thing in the first place, and the company's responsibility for limiting the time in which you can test their rather expensive tools. If you were prepared to spend that much money on your 'just a hobby' in the first place, testing it really should have had more priority.
The 14 days should be actual plugin use.
Seriously? You expect 336 hours use of a plugin? When you also say you can only find 15-30 minutes to use one in a fortnight?
So you're basically saying you want 700-1400 weeks of demoing at your current rate?

Aye, well, I guess its only 26 years. Are you sure you dont want longer?
And with other companies I have all the time I need to test their software and don't need to contact support.
Where that 'other' is a negligible minority'. Very few companies give you unlimited fully-functional demos.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."

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whyterabbyt wrote:
The 14 days should be actual plugin use.
Seriously? You expect 336 hours use of a plugin? When you also say you can only find 15-30 minutes to use one in a fortnight?
So you're basically saying you want 700-1400 weeks of demoing at your current rate?

Aye, well, I guess its only 26 years. Are you sure you dont want longer?
:lol: :lol: :clap:

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kvr definitely needs a like button.
As you often do, said it much better than I ever could.
rsp

whyterabbyt wrote:
xx JPRacer xx wrote:
martinjuenke wrote: If you are not able to judge a plugin within 14 days then it‘s solely your problem.
Who said I tested for 14 days?
Noone said that. He said 'within 14 days'. Different thing.
That's the problem with the whole process. I tested for top 15-30 minutes and then had other obligations.

Some people do other things in life that is much more important than reserving full 14 days to test an audio plugin especially if music is just a hobby for them.
Hmmm. I cant help feeling that there's a cognitive dissonance between not significantly prioritising the time to test something for your hobby within a 14-day limit, your need for that thing in the first place, and the company's responsibility for limiting the time in which you can test their rather expensive tools. If you were prepared to spend that much money on your 'just a hobby' in the first place, testing it really should have had more priority.
The 14 days should be actual plugin use.
Seriously? You expect 336 hours use of a plugin? When you also say you can only find 15-30 minutes to use one in a fortnight?
So you're basically saying you want 700-1400 weeks of demoing at your current rate?

Aye, well, I guess its only 26 years. Are you sure you dont want longer?
And with other companies I have all the time I need to test their software and don't need to contact support.
Where that 'other' is a negligible minority'. Very few companies give you unlimited fully-functional demos.
sound sculptist

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zvenx wrote:kvr definitely needs a like button.
As you often do, said it much better than I ever could.
rsp

whyterabbyt wrote:
xx JPRacer xx wrote:
martinjuenke wrote: If you are not able to judge a plugin within 14 days then it‘s solely your problem.
Who said I tested for 14 days?
Noone said that. He said 'within 14 days'. Different thing.
That's the problem with the whole process. I tested for top 15-30 minutes and then had other obligations.

Some people do other things in life that is much more important than reserving full 14 days to test an audio plugin especially if music is just a hobby for them.
Hmmm. I cant help feeling that there's a cognitive dissonance between not significantly prioritising the time to test something for your hobby within a 14-day limit, your need for that thing in the first place, and the company's responsibility for limiting the time in which you can test their rather expensive tools. If you were prepared to spend that much money on your 'just a hobby' in the first place, testing it really should have had more priority.
The 14 days should be actual plugin use.
Seriously? You expect 336 hours use of a plugin? When you also say you can only find 15-30 minutes to use one in a fortnight?
So you're basically saying you want 700-1400 weeks of demoing at your current rate?

Aye, well, I guess its only 26 years. Are you sure you dont want longer?
And with other companies I have all the time I need to test their software and don't need to contact support.
Where that 'other' is a negligible minority'. Very few companies give you unlimited fully-functional demos.
Thanks for your clear and appropriate words!
:clap:

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KVR also needs a "like button" because of walls of quote, followed by basically "I agree". Someone please agree ;) Seriously, I think this helps readability immensely. Polite people are no more forced to write space wasting "Thank you" inside the thread. I'm in some fora which definitely benefit from it.

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tapiodmitriyevich wrote:KVR also needs a "like button" because of walls of quote, followed by basically "I agree". Someone please agree ;) Let's take a deep breath now together?
I‘m pressing the „LIKE“ button! :tu:

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People that like their system... good for you! I don't give a shit, their system suck! (but their customer service seems to be good at least). One of my resolution for 2018 is to stop wasting time arguing on the internet... so happy new year! I'm outta here!

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This thread turned entertaining! Also, my recent purchases of Sandman Pro, Fault, and Dent 2 are amazing. Also, UA synth!!! Ooooooo.

Hit my LIKE button, ha!

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xx JPRacer xx wrote:People that like their system... good for you! I don't give a shit, their system suck! (but their customer service seems to be good at least). One of my resolution for 2018 is to stop wasting time arguing on the internet... so happy new year! I'm outta here!
Good luck with that...Making statements like above will probably not help though. Cheers!

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martinjuenke wrote:
tapiodmitriyevich wrote:KVR also needs a "like button" because of walls of quote, followed by basically "I agree". Someone please agree ;) Let's take a deep breath now together?
I‘m pressing the „LIKE“ button! :tu:
I hate like/dislike button culture. It simplifies things, its like living in the Donald Trump world. I don´t know which one is worse, Facebook or Trump.

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