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[V0RT3X]

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[zerocrossing]

No. He wasn' t trolling, just in rage, which also happens to Germans, despite their plans of a "My Little Pony" internet. He'll take a deep breath and 2018 will be a good year. Amen.

Have you seen the My Little Pony movie? I took my daughter to it and it was a darker and more conflict laden movie than The Last Jedi.

I did once have an issue demoing Sandman. I forget what it is now, but eventually I just said, “f it,” and bought it. The reviews from people I trust were good and the audio examples showed me it was right up my alley. The price was right too. I bought Sandman Pro and I was not disappointed. It’s an awesome delay plugin, no doubt. When they ran their last sale, I didn’t even bother doing a demo. I had no real time anyway (this time of year sucks for me, as all the cool sales happen at a time when I have zero time to do any demo work.) and the demo tracks and videos looked great, so I bought Fault and SpecOps without even demoing them. If they’re half as good as Sandman Pro, I’ll be happy.

[dandezebra]

No. He wasn' t trolling, just in rage, which also happens to Germans, despite their plans of a "My Little Pony" internet. He'll take a deep breath and 2018 will be a good year. Amen.

Have you seen the My Little Pony movie? I took my daughter to it and it was a darker and more conflict laden movie than The Last Jedi.

I did once have an issue demoing Sandman. I forget what it is now, but eventually I just said, “f it,” and bought it. The reviews from people I trust were good and the audio examples showed me it was right up my alley. The price was right too. I bought Sandman Pro and I was not disappointed. It’s an awesome delay plugin, no doubt. When they ran their last sale, I didn’t even bother doing a demo. I had no real time anyway (this time of year sucks for me, as all the cool sales happen at a time when I have zero time to do any demo work.) and the demo tracks and videos looked great, so I bought Fault and SpecOps without even demoing them. If they’re half as good as Sandman Pro, I’ll be happy.

Sorry, but Fault isn't half as good as Sandman...It is equally as good!

SpecOps is on my radar also...I just hope that they wait a month or two before having a sale on it as I need some recovery time! Or that I have magically jumped from a $25 voucher to $75!

[ghettosynth]

SpecOps is on my radar also...I just hope that they wait a month or two before having a sale on it as I need some recovery time! Or that I have magically jumped from a $25 voucher to $75!

Spec-ops is on my radar as well, but, I have become a disciplined plugin consumer and just say no unless there is a good sale!

BTW: if you've jumped to $75 you've spent a metric-ass-load of cash with PA over the last year.

[dandezebra]

SpecOps is on my radar also...I just hope that they wait a month or two before having a sale on it as I need some recovery time! Or that I have magically jumped from a $25 voucher to $75!

Spec-ops is on my radar as well, but, I have become a disciplined plugin consumer and just say no unless there is a good sale!

BTW: if you've jumped to $75 you've spent a metric-ass-load of cash with PA over the last year.

No way I have jumped to $75...Probably no chance that I got to $35. It would be a nice surprise though!

[ghettosynth]

SpecOps is on my radar also...I just hope that they wait a month or two before having a sale on it as I need some recovery time! Or that I have magically jumped from a $25 voucher to $75!

Spec-ops is on my radar as well, but, I have become a disciplined plugin consumer and just say no unless there is a good sale!

BTW: if you've jumped to $75 you've spent a metric-ass-load of cash with PA over the last year.

No way I have jumped to $75...Probably no chance that I got to $35. It would be a nice surprise though!

It has something to do with the amount of money that you've spent over the last year but I think that a factor of ten is a good starting guess. I'm so cheap that I'm just waiting for the day that they drop me off of the list altogether.

I gave them some cash over Christmas though, so we'll see how that goes

[lnikj]

Maybe it's like the Google search algorithm; if you actually suss it out and game it then you get blacklisted (or run over by a Merc with blacked out windows on a dark night).

[pekbro]

BTW: if you've jumped to $75 you've spent a metric-ass-load of cash with PA over the last year.

Ok just for fun


Here is some hard data for 2017...

Cost/Product Count:

29-1x -25 code
14-1x -35 code
3.90-1x
22.20-2x -50 code
9-1x
38-2x
9-1x
44-1x
4-1x -75 code
39-1x
0-1x
68.40-2x -fb code
24-1x
29-1x
12-3x

20 products for a total of 345.50, $25 starting disc - $75 ending...
total disc $1000, msrp (@sale pricing) = $1409 *sry not using a spreadsheet no idea about discrepancy.

*note: this is just an idea of what you have to spend, I don't see this as being detrimental
to the program, it should encourage folks to spend if anything Also, per the topic: this includes 'every'
product by UA released in 2017.

Ok, Final thoughts: as you can see I've been pretty conservative in my PA spending, even though at the
end of the year the total is substantial (you can attribute that to UA actually). The one thing I've learned:
is that you should avoid using the voucher to get free stuff, the one time I did, my discount decreased by
50%. Spend something if you possibly can, even if its only $4, if only to maintain your current voucher level.

I think any spending still raises your level actually.

[shonky]

Someone did suggest that this level of extreme discounting is some sort of subscription by stealth in that you pay a fee each month to get something at a no-brainer price and, over time, you do end up owning most of their stuff. Ensures a regular income stream for PA, which they use to create new products, and works out well for the customer.

With the obvious plus being that you don't surrender everything when you cancel the subscription.

[thelizard]

Hey everyone! Sorry for not posting here as frequently as usual. Josh and I have been hard at work on a number of things (including the instrument mentioned in the podcast).

1) The holiday sale ends tomorrow. This has been our most successful sale ever! Thank you so much. We saw an especially large spike in new Sandman Pro users. Regarding SP, the bugfix for the AU input monitoring is still in testing. We had updated to JUCE 5 to fix the scaling bug on the dropdown menus (along with other graphics issues). A few other bugs were introduced by that upgrade, but we're on the last major one. Hopefully we can get that to you soon.

2) If you use VCV Rack, we've created modular spin-offs of Indent, Dent, and Instant Delay. They are available for sale through the VCV package manager: https://vcvrack.com/plugins.html

The manuals are here: https://www.unfilteredaudio.com/pages/vcv-manuals

I absolutely love VCV. You can expect more from us in the future.

3) Josh and I will be at NAMM (Friday and Saturday only). We do not have our own booth this year, but you'll likely find us roaming around the Elektron, Teenage Engineering, or Eurorack booths. Come say hey if you spot us.

4) As dayjob posted, I appeared on Darwin Grosse's excellent Art + Music + Technology podcast. Topics included the history of UA and my personal composition techniques: http://artmusictech.libsyn.com/podcast- ... el-hetrick

[ghettosynth]

BTW: if you've jumped to $75 you've spent a metric-ass-load of cash with PA over the last year.

Ok just for fun


Here is some hard data for 2017...

Cost/Product Count:

29-1x -25 code
14-1x -35 code
3.90-1x
22.20-2x -50 code
9-1x
38-2x
9-1x
44-1x
4-1x -75 code
39-1x
0-1x
68.40-2x -fb code
24-1x
29-1x
12-3x

20 products for a total of 345.50, $25 starting disc - $75 ending...
total disc $1000, msrp (@sale pricing) = $1409 *sry not using a spreadsheet no idea about discrepancy.

*note: this is just an idea of what you have to spend, I don't see this as being detrimental
to the program, it should encourage folks to spend if anything Also, per the topic: this includes 'every'
product by UA released in 2017.

Ok, Final thoughts: as you can see I've been pretty conservative in my PA spending, even though at the
end of the year the total is substantial (you can attribute that to UA actually). The one thing I've learned:
is that you should avoid using the voucher to get free stuff, the one time I did, my discount decreased by
50%. Spend something if you possibly can, even if its only $4, if only to maintain your current voucher level.

I think any spending still raises your level actually.

Thank you for that! I asked if anyone had any data on the "should I get freebies" months ago (maybe last year) and at the time nobody had any hard data. I'm still not sure what the optimum strategy is. I think that depends very much on whether or not they eventually take full on freeloaders, or frequent but not constant freeloaders, off of the coupon ranks. As a fraction of total value my discount percentage is much higher than yours but that is a function of them continuing to give a $25 coupon every month even though I haven't spent much this year. On the flip side, with a bigger and consistent coupon I would probably buy more of the sale items. My MO is actual cash spent/plugin, I couldn't care less whether I spend $25 by using a $75 coupon on a $200 plugin on sale for $100 or $25 by using a $25 coupon for the same $200 plugin on sale for $50, to me, it's still $25 for the plugin.

Your data suggests a much lower barrier to the higher levels than previous posts have led us to believe. This suggests to me that the specific spending habits may be of much more importance in their model than the actual dollars spent.

It's low risk for me to try your strategy for a few months and see if it changes my coupon level. I wonder whether they distinguish not using the coupon vs using the coupon to get something for free? It looks to me like you were buying something every month?

At any rate, thanks again for the real data!

[pekbro]

Yeah pretty much every month. I have used every voucher I have ever received, and I get one every month
since they started that. The 0 in the list isn't actually the one that 'seemingly' dropped my level, that was
towards the end of 2016. Seems I was able to offset the $0 purchase in 2017, by coincidentally using the
facebook code, pretty much the next day. In fact, it went from $50 to $75 after that.

I think the main thing to try to do here, is to keep your account positive from the position of PA. Its when
you are a drain on them, that your voucher seems to get affected negatively, which makes sense of course.
The value of the voucher is undoubtedly tied to the value of your account though.

btw: I have never bought anything "only" for the voucher reward. I have been able to find something I
actually wanted every time so far, although, it is getting harder. Most of the double purchases were me
adding something cheap so I could actually pay. There were also a couple extra purchases, just because
I wanted something on sale, where I didn't want to use the voucher.

-Cheers

[Hez]

Was just wondering whether anybody else gets some strange behaviour from other (non-UA) plugins when one or more UA plugins are present in a project? This is probably pretty specific to Bitwig but I figured I'd ask in here as not many people seem to use UA plugins over on the Bitwig forum.

There are two main behaviours that I can reliably reproduce:

1. When one or more UA plugins are present in a project, a few choice other plugins will crash when activating the audio engine exactly once for each instance of a UA plugin. SPC ArcSyn is one plugin which suffers from this issue. E.g. if I add two instances of Unfiltered Audio Fault to a project, then add Arcsyn, then restart the audio engine, ArcSyn will crash twice and need to be reloaded before it finally activates properly.

2. When at least one UA plugin is present in a project, some delay VSTs start behaving as if the project has a tempo of 0, i.e. time synced delays suddenly get hugely long and glitchy delay times. UVI Relayer is an example of a plugin that gets affected by this.

I haven't had any luck getting the Bitwig devs to look into this and bizarrely it is only Unfiltered Audio plugins which cause this behaviour.

[The_Hidden_Goose]

I was thinking I really needed a delay that I could modulate in VCV. UA Provide!

Looking forward to what they do for that platform more than anything else.

[thelizard]

Was just wondering whether anybody else gets some strange behaviour from other (non-UA) plugins when one or more UA plugins are present in a project? This is probably pretty specific to Bitwig but I figured I'd ask in here as not many people seem to use UA plugins over on the Bitwig forum.

There are two main behaviours that I can reliably reproduce:

1. When one or more UA plugins are present in a project, a few choice other plugins will crash when activating the audio engine exactly once for each instance of a UA plugin. SPC ArcSyn is one plugin which suffers from this issue. E.g. if I add two instances of Unfiltered Audio Fault to a project, then add Arcsyn, then restart the audio engine, ArcSyn will crash twice and need to be reloaded before it finally activates properly.

2. When at least one UA plugin is present in a project, some delay VSTs start behaving as if the project has a tempo of 0, i.e. time synced delays suddenly get hugely long and glitchy delay times. UVI Relayer is an example of a plugin that gets affected by this.

I haven't had any luck getting the Bitwig devs to look into this and bizarrely it is only Unfiltered Audio plugins which cause this behaviour.

That is very unusual! I'll get in touch with those devs to see if we can figure out what's happening.

EDIT: It looks like the QA team has been in contact with UVI. We have a detailed report that I somehow missed on the bug tracker. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.