Best Marshall tone (Plexi - JTM 45)

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DC42
KVRer
4 posts since 13 Jun, 2018

Post Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:41 am

Hello All,

Downloaded the KVR amp demos and really like the tones I am hearing. What amp do you all use to get that Marshall crunch sound? Have been spending time with the Vermilion as it has a nice tweed - brownface sound.

My apologies if this is posted in the incorrect section.

Regards,

Dave :phones:

generaldiomedes
KVRian
502 posts since 15 Apr, 2017 from Canada

Re: Best Marshall tone (Plexi - JTM 45)

Post Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:21 pm

Are you talking a real amp or a simulated amp?? For real amps - maybe try Gearslutz. People around here don't talk guitar gear all that much. For amp sims, the Effects forum is where that lives.

As for an amp sim with good Marshall crunch try sGear as the brains behind it (Mike Scuffham) actually used to work for Marshall and the tone is considered by many to be definitive as far as amp sims go.

https://www.scuffhamamps.com/product/am ... he-stealer

Also, what is a KVR amp demo??

DC42
KVRer
4 posts since 13 Jun, 2018

Re: Best Marshall tone (Plexi - JTM 45)

Post Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:39 pm

Disregard I meant Kuassa amp demos (Creme and Vermilion). Was posting while at work sorry. Yes I have S-Gear...Mike does nice work.

https://www.kvraudio.com/product/amplif ... -by-kuassa

https://www.kvraudio.com/product/amplif ... -by-kuassa

Dave

simon.a.billington
KVRian
1410 posts since 12 Nov, 2014

Re: Best Marshall tone (Plexi - JTM 45)

Post Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:32 am

Don't get caught up on which is the best, you're likely to get 10 or 20 different answers here, each person thinking another emulation is the best. But there is a reason for this...

People often fall into the trap of comparing sims against each other or comparing them against the real thing, but making huge, vital errors with their comparisons and draw conclusions based on the bad, incorrect knowledge.

Amps are from a specific manufacturing run, that have a specific chain that usually feeds from the amp to a specific cab, to a specific microphone to a specific pre-amp, all done in a properly isolated room. The variations between vintage amps are often greater, because they didn't have the more strict component manufacturing stands we do today. So there is even larger variation between them.

This is enough for each amp's characteristics to diverse enough to make them sound different. People don't realise this when they are making their comparisons.

Check this out as an example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY3LB_e-8mM&t=418s

So there is really no such thing as "best" emulation, not these days anyway. "Best" is just an opportunity for people to offer their subjective opinion. No one is right. Just try out a few different emulations, go for the one that feels and sounds the best to you, and is at a price you can afford...

Logic has a JTM 45 (Vintage British Stack), but that may not be helpful to you. Im pretty sure Guitar Rig has a Plexi, but that's all the ones I know. I just know that Waves, IK Multimedia and Plugin Alliance don't have one.

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The Noodlist
KVRist
240 posts since 16 Aug, 2017 from UK

Re: Best Marshall tone (Plexi - JTM 45)

Post Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:21 am

One man's best is another man's worst. :?
I like to have some analogue components in the signal chain.
Joyo JF-01 Vintage Overdrive DI into a cab sim.
Joyo Amp simulators.
A Mooer Hustle Drive into a amp sim and/or cab simulator.
P&M American Tweed.
Mooer do amp sim pedals.
There's always Amplitube's 53 Bassman, which is available through Custom Shop.
I'm sure Henry Olonga has something similar for Nebula.
 
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Hardware emulation list. I don't really need anymore effects, I need to learn how to use those I already have.

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Burillo
KVRAF
2981 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Hell

Re: Best Marshall tone (Plexi - JTM 45)

Post Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:15 am

IK Multimedia does have a JTM45, in the Jimi Hendrix Gold collection.
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BertKoor
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10655 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland

Re: Best Marshall tone (Plexi - JTM 45)

Post Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:01 am

I really like my Orange OD-120 valve head for its crunchy tone. Alas they don't make them anymore.
In pedal form I also really like my Tech-21 Tri-OD. Also out of production, but they still make similar stuff.
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simon.a.billington
KVRian
1410 posts since 12 Nov, 2014

Re: Best Marshall tone (Plexi - JTM 45)

Post Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:48 am

Burillo wrote:IK Multimedia does have a JTM45, in the Jimi Hendrix Gold collection.
Oh thanks man. I did think it was odd they didn't have one, but that explains it, I just neglected to check their collections.

Etienne1973
KVRist
291 posts since 8 Feb, 2013 from Switzerland

Re: Best Marshall tone (Plexi - JTM 45)

Post Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:01 am

Kazrog Thermionik Marshland 45

There's a trial version you can download. Don't get fooled by the boring generic GUI (Graphical User Interface). It's all about feel and last but not least sound. :wink:

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The Noodlist
KVRist
240 posts since 16 Aug, 2017 from UK

Re: Best Marshall tone (Plexi - JTM 45)

Post Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:47 am

I've been experimenting with a analog pedal into Prime Studios's Charly.
It's free and based on a tube summing device.
Hardware emulation list. I don't really need anymore effects, I need to learn how to use those I already have.

rollasoc
KVRist
431 posts since 13 Jun, 2003 from Shrewsbury, UK

Re: Best Marshall tone (Plexi - JTM 45)

Post Mon Sep 03, 2018 4:58 am

Possibly the answer to the original question?
Models the JTM45 and others
https://www.kuassa.com/products/amplifikation-caliburn/
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mod.eater
Banned
11 posts since 29 Aug, 2018

Re: Best Marshall tone (Plexi - JTM 45)

Post Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:14 am

Line6 Helix native has:

Brit J45 Nrm Guitar Marshall JTM-45 (normal channel)
Brit J45 Brt Guitar Marshall JTM-45 (bright channel)

Also several JTM-50's

DC42
KVRer
4 posts since 13 Jun, 2018

Re: Best Marshall tone (Plexi - JTM 45)

Post Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:10 pm

Thanks all...received an answer to the original question late in thread (thanks rollasoc). That said took advantage of the great price and licensed the Thermionik demo I had installed. Have really gotten into it over the last few weeks.

I do like the Marshland (the Mesa's and '62 Champ models are great too). The Plexi sounds "strange" to me and am still trying to dial it in. Been heading into work on limited sleep of late. Kind of the way I like it (up late jamming & tweaking).

Dave
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Burillo
KVRAF
2981 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Hell

Re: Best Marshall tone (Plexi - JTM 45)

Post Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:07 am

btw check out Kuassa Caliburn - it was released some time after this thread was started, and it's awesome and easy to work with.
From Russia with love

DC42
KVRer
4 posts since 13 Jun, 2018

Re: Best Marshall tone (Plexi - JTM 45)

Post Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:38 am

Burillo wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:07 am
btw check out Kuassa Caliburn - it was released some time after this thread was started, and it's awesome and easy to work with.
Will do! Looks nice.

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