A Good All-Round Reverb Plug-in

[codec_spurt]

Hi Folks,

I've been reading up on various approaches to reverb in mixing. Seems that a common approach is to use three reverbs - a short "ambience" to put the sound in a space, a medium-length, bright reverb (usually a plate) for sounds at the front of the soundstage, and a large, hall-type reverb for sounds in the background.

What I'm wondering is, is there a good-quality reverb plug-in that can do all these? From what I've seen, most reverb plug-ins do one thing well - either rooms or plates but there's not many that do these two and ambiences.

At this stage I'm thinking that TSAR-1, PhoenixVerb and possibly Flux Verb Session 3 can provide all of these. Are there any others?

Gonna shill for Tone Boosters again. Their reverb is pretty good for providing 'spaces'. It comes with some other very useful plugins as well if you get the bundle.

https://www.toneboosters.com/tb_reverb_v4.html

"bright reverb (usually a plate) for sounds at the front of the soundstage, and a large, hall-type reverb "

That sounds a lot to me like something along the lines of Audio Damage ADVERB2:

https://www.audiodamage.com/collections ... 45-adverb2

If you want the deeper hall sounds then get -

https://www.audiodamage.com/collections ... d034-eos-2


This one is free:
https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2017/1 ... nt-reverb/

[dandezebra]

Breeze 2.0 is the best deal for all purpose reverb. And it's still on 40% off summer sale for a few more days.

Breeze is a long term keeper even if you decide you want others. Also light CPU.

[Vortifex]

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[chk071]

Only one mention of Valhalla in a reverb thread?

May have to do with none of them being a real "general purpose" reverb. But, it's a difficult thing recommending one anyway. IMO, most of them are rather one trick ponies. UltraReverb could fit the bill, but, it's rather "dark" in tone IMO, which may limit it a bit in use as well.

Maybe i'm a bit too OCD in that regard anyway. I saw quite a few production videos where the artists seem to be ALWAYS using one specific reverb, for everything.

[Zexila]

I saw quite a few production videos where the artists seem to be ALWAYS using one specific reverb, for everything.

Guess by the time one approaches final mix, backing off all that cool reverb is a must and what you are left off isn't something that exciting anymore and most of the reverbs you got could do it without 90% of casual listeners even noticing much difference... So many quality reverbs out there, even stock DAW ones, so choice comes down to workflow, rather than some nuances in reverb tails which aren't even heard in majority of busy mixes.

[Etienne1973]

Guess by the time one approaches final mix, backing off all that cool reverb is a must and what you are left off isn't something that exciting anymore and most of the reverbs you got could do it without 90% of casual listeners even noticing much difference... So many quality reverbs out there, even stock DAW ones, so choice comes down to workflow, rather than some nuances in reverb tails which aren't even heard in majority of busy mixes.

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[Zexila]

Also half of these reverb tips and tricks are straight from the 80s and some Grammy nominated mixing engineers that endorse half of the shinnies people are hoarding these days, that kind of workflows are outdated and doesn't work for many folks that do purely synthetic music that doesn't live in any realistic space.

You can hear that you should put your drums in same room, maybe your recorded acoustic drum kit, but if you have current pop/trap/hip hop mix in front of you, 808 hi hats live on other planet how much they are over the top and pronounced, that 808 snares/claps are so dry and in your face, kicks/808 click with sub bass is pretty dry too, so yeah, that obviously doesn't apply to you.

But this is just one reverb case, there's stuff like this all over the map coming from same sources, take anything they have to say with huge grain of salt, they are living in past, probably just endorsing something and most definitely trying to justify their own GAS decisions.

[sqigls]

if anyone wants a $20 2CAudio voucher send me your full name and email, you can pick up Breeze 2 for $54.95 for the next few days.

[chk071]

if anyone wants a $20 2CAudio voucher send me your full name and email, you can pick up Breeze 2 for $54.95 for the next few days.

I considered it for days now. So far, reason has outweighed GAS. Hope it stays that way. (I already have all the reverbs i need, ever)

[Vortifex]

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[martinjuenke]

if anyone wants a $20 2CAudio voucher send me your full name and email, you can pick up Breeze 2 for $54.95 for the next few days.

I considered it for days now. So far, reason has outweighed GAS. Hope it stays that way. (I already have all the reverbs i need, ever)

Think twice! Breeze is a pleasant breeze...

[3ee]

+1 for Breeze2
..especially for the current discounted price.

[OneOfManyPauls]

another hat tip for fabfilter pro-r here - absolutely love that thing.

[mholloway]

Hi Folks,

I've been reading up on various approaches to reverb in mixing. Seems that a common approach is to use three reverbs - a short "ambience" to put the sound in a space, a medium-length, bright reverb (usually a plate) for sounds at the front of the soundstage, and a large, hall-type reverb for sounds in the background.

What I'm wondering is, is there a good-quality reverb plug-in that can do all these? From what I've seen, most reverb plug-ins do one thing well - either rooms or plates but there's not many that do these two and ambiences.

At this stage I'm thinking that TSAR-1, PhoenixVerb and possibly Flux Verb Session 3 can provide all of these. Are there any others?

The three reverb approach is a solid strategy, but don't take it too literally -- for example, the 2nd verb absolutely doesn't need to be a Plate, and it's silly to think it has to be. If so, why? Could you even say why? Etc.

The main point is just: small / ambience + medium + long. So that you can send to a nice range of effects...

As for which Reverb, just demo them, ok? There's zero point in this thread becoming 24 pages of people listing which reverb plugins they own.

I also agree with the (far more useful) input here about most reverbs sharing essentially 90% of the same quality and behavior, and being distinguished only by the last 10% of character / realism / whatever, and that frequently that 10% isn't even audible in a mix.

So just find one you like, stick with it, and don't worry too much about it unless you're failing to get results that sound good to you.

There was a time, fwiw, when 80% of the 24 pages of answers to a question like this would simply be: Valhalla Vintage Verb.

[fmr]

another hat tip for fabfilter pro-r here - absolutely love that thing.

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