How to upgrade ?
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- KVRAF
- 3729 posts since 3 Nov, 2015
Hello,
How is the upgrade to 12.04 done ?
Cheers.
How is the upgrade to 12.04 done ?
Cheers.
Last edited by mevla on Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRAF
- 10376 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
It depends - what version are you on at the moment?
- KVRAF
- 3362 posts since 31 Dec, 2004 from People's Republic of Minnesota
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3729 posts since 3 Nov, 2015
I have 12.02 mostly. The way I see it so far: the installer lets you choose which plugin to install. This is very fine and works very well. Now, to update, let's say I have:
MAutopan.dll
MAutopanMB.dll
MAutoPitch.dll
MBandPass.dll
MBitFun.dll
MChorusMB.dll
MComb.dll
MCombMB.dll
MCompressor.dll
MConvolutionMB.dll
MDrummer16out.dll
MDrummer1out.dll
MEqualizer.dll
MFlanger.dll
MFreeformPhase.dll
MFreqShifter.dll
MFreqShifterMB.dll
MLoudnessAnalyzer.dll
MMultiAnalyzer.dll
MNoiseGenerator.dll
MOscillator.dll
MOscilloscope.dll
MPhaser.dll
MPolySaturator.dll
MRatio.dll
MRecorder.dll
MReverbMB.dll
MRingModulator.dll
MSaturator.dll
MSaturatorMB.dll
MSpectralDelay.dll
MSpectralPan.dll
MStereoExpander.dll
MStereoScope.dll
MTremolo.dll
MTuner.dll
MUtility.dll
MVibrato.dll
MVintageRotary.dll
Now I will have to copy that list in a text editor, open the 12.04 installer, then manually refer to that list to check every plugin I have for update ? That would be tedious.
I have the unconfirmed impression that updates are made by installing all plugins whether you actually have it or not.
Also, the installer always asks to delete/clean up plugins at every installation of a single plugin. What is this about ?
Cheers.
MAutopan.dll
MAutopanMB.dll
MAutoPitch.dll
MBandPass.dll
MBitFun.dll
MChorusMB.dll
MComb.dll
MCombMB.dll
MCompressor.dll
MConvolutionMB.dll
MDrummer16out.dll
MDrummer1out.dll
MEqualizer.dll
MFlanger.dll
MFreeformPhase.dll
MFreqShifter.dll
MFreqShifterMB.dll
MLoudnessAnalyzer.dll
MMultiAnalyzer.dll
MNoiseGenerator.dll
MOscillator.dll
MOscilloscope.dll
MPhaser.dll
MPolySaturator.dll
MRatio.dll
MRecorder.dll
MReverbMB.dll
MRingModulator.dll
MSaturator.dll
MSaturatorMB.dll
MSpectralDelay.dll
MSpectralPan.dll
MStereoExpander.dll
MStereoScope.dll
MTremolo.dll
MTuner.dll
MUtility.dll
MVibrato.dll
MVintageRotary.dll
Now I will have to copy that list in a text editor, open the 12.04 installer, then manually refer to that list to check every plugin I have for update ? That would be tedious.
I have the unconfirmed impression that updates are made by installing all plugins whether you actually have it or not.
Also, the installer always asks to delete/clean up plugins at every installation of a single plugin. What is this about ?
Cheers.
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- KVRAF
- 10376 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
^^^
The installer installs the individual plug-ins (these are essentially front-ends) and the kernel modules used by them all. Once you have selected the ones you want in the installer I think that that list is kept for next time.
As for the clean-up that is to help users with plug-ins scattered all over the place (to avoid unintended duplicates / old versions etc). I just do the quick clean-up automatically.
The installer installs the individual plug-ins (these are essentially front-ends) and the kernel modules used by them all. Once you have selected the ones you want in the installer I think that that list is kept for next time.
As for the clean-up that is to help users with plug-ins scattered all over the place (to avoid unintended duplicates / old versions etc). I just do the quick clean-up automatically.
Generally it is, but not if you are on an old version- read the notes on the first page of the installation.masterhiggins wrote:Confused. I thought it was just a matter of downloading their latest installer and running that.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3729 posts since 3 Nov, 2015
It does remember. That's why I had to clear the selection(s) before installing another one.DarkStar wrote: The installer installs the individual plug-ins (these are essentially front-ends) and the kernel modules used by them all. Once you have selected the ones you want in the installer I think that that list is kept for next time.
So basically I have to get my list in a text editor and manually check all the plugins I want to be installed over the existing ones. That's OK, takes time though. I would have thought there was a better way.
And then after doing that, if I want to try MXXXCore or any other, I clear the list in the installer to install just one.
And at the next plugins update I again do a directory listing, get it into a text editor, manually select all plugins I want to update by going back and forth with the list, and do the update.
And then there's new Melda plugin. Or one I would like to try. I clear the list, install just one... and at the next update ...
It might be just me, but it would be nice if the installer could read the license keys and have an 'Update' button that would automatically select all owned plugins for update purposes.
Cheers.
- KVRAF
- 10175 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
This is why you should upgrade to the Everything Bundle.
Installation requires no memory or text editors.
Installation requires no memory or text editors.
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mike_the_ranger mike_the_ranger https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=393922
- KVRist
- 262 posts since 16 Feb, 2017
Unfortunately it never did that for meDarkStar wrote:Once you have selected the ones you want in the installer I think that that list is kept for next time.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3729 posts since 3 Nov, 2015
Even if I had the money to allocate to this, I do not see why I should get Everything. Really. With what I have at the moment I have enough to learn for 1.5 years. And then there are some plugins whose uses are absolutely not clear that is, in practical terms, not in theory. MCharacter, MPhatik, MVocoder, MMoprh, MBassador, MRhythmizerMB, MTransformer, MUnison, and even MPowerSynth's place amongst all other synths would not be clear at the moment. And then, once practical uses are actually tested, the time to actually learn these devices... Even with the demos I do not have the time to asses their practicality related to the music I do.VariKusBrainZ wrote:This is why you should upgrade to the Everything Bundle.
So I still think that it would be down-to-earth practical if the installer could read the installed license keys and make selections on its own for update purposes.
Cheers.
- KVRAF
- 10175 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
I was being pedanticmevla wrote:Even if I had the money to allocate to this, I do not see why I should get Everything. Really. With what I have at the moment I have enough to learn for 1.5 years. And then there are some plugins whose uses are absolutely not clear that is, in practical terms, not in theory. MCharacter, MPhatik, MVocoder, MMoprh, MBassador, MRhythmizerMB, MTransformer, MUnison, and even MPowerSynth's place amongst all other synths would not be clear at the moment. And then, once practical uses are actually tested, the time to actually learn these devices... Even with the demos I do not have the time to asses their practicality related to the music I do.VariKusBrainZ wrote:This is why you should upgrade to the Everything Bundle.
So I still think that it would be down-to-earth practical if the installer could read the installed license keys and make selections on its own for update purposes.
Cheers.
I had the same problem as you but had an amazing upgrade deal so went Everything, which solved this little problem
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14339 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
It has been on the todo list for some time, but no dev time, I'm afraid... Anyways once you check what you want, it will remember it for the next time, so it's just a one time thing.
