Man, that's niche.whyterabbyt wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:44 amYou mean quoting kinh's responses to threads which are ostensibly identical in nature to this?
Benefits of Hardsynth for electronic music?
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- KVRist
- 356 posts since 24 Dec, 2015
Yasutaka Nakata made most of Perfume/KPP's discography with soft synths. I can tell you that he uses Massive, FM8, Sylenth1, Kontakt libraries and Vengeance sample packs a lot.
About the Roland System 8, you're aware that's just an hardware controlling software emulations of JP-8, Juno, etc and those emulations are available as plugins.
If you want the Virus kind of sound, Serum is the closest I find (the best supersaw sound for example) but also so much easier to program because of its interface and features. u-he Hive is a great alternative as well.
Hardware gives you a different flavour and another way to work but if the most important for you is to produce music and to make things flow, it's much better to keep it simple with a DAW and plugins. Playing and tweaking sounds on an HW synth can be fun but recording takes more time and it's not as convenient in the long run. It's much more interesting to spend your HW synth money on NI Komplete/Omnisphere/Serum/Diva... instead imo. It'll cover any sound possible.
About the Roland System 8, you're aware that's just an hardware controlling software emulations of JP-8, Juno, etc and those emulations are available as plugins.
If you want the Virus kind of sound, Serum is the closest I find (the best supersaw sound for example) but also so much easier to program because of its interface and features. u-he Hive is a great alternative as well.
Hardware gives you a different flavour and another way to work but if the most important for you is to produce music and to make things flow, it's much better to keep it simple with a DAW and plugins. Playing and tweaking sounds on an HW synth can be fun but recording takes more time and it's not as convenient in the long run. It's much more interesting to spend your HW synth money on NI Komplete/Omnisphere/Serum/Diva... instead imo. It'll cover any sound possible.
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- KVRAF
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If you are not infatuated with a specific piece of hardware... All stop. You have to already want the gear to fulfill an emptiness that you feel you have.Spock" wrote:As illogical it may seem You may find that the wanting is more pleasurable than the having
Then other factors come into play
Do you expect to gig with it? Is it something you want to show off? Computer software doesn't have the physicality of hardware. Sure a tablet or laptop can do pretty much everything and more that hardware equivalents but to the rest of the world it's just another computer that anyone would own. Then there's that one thing about taking the said laptop/tablet onstage.... Theft. I've never had a guitar stolen off of a stage. I've had a few mic's swiped even at more "uptown" gigs. and I have had amps guitars and effects stolen and robbed at various gigs through the years. Scary stuff, heartbreaking stuff. Keyboard workstations, hardware synths are less likely to be stolen from a stage than a mic or laptop given it's size and high visibility. That being said setup and tear down is a bitch the more gear you have. The guys still making money gigging as professional keyboard players that I know play... Classic Rock. Parks and Rec gigs are good change as are larger suburban bars. These guys usually show up with one workstation maybe two. Not a dedicated synth. It's usually a Kurzweil PC or a Korg Kronos
I used to have various workstations through the years. And I have had a few dedicated hw synths. Don't miss them one bit. I also used to have a vast collection of guitars which is my main instrument. Now I have a few guitars and make due with the rest by using a variax with it's modelling technology. I love guitars, guitars look pretty. It's nice to have a harem of guitars to look at. It's not nice to take the harem out for live performances.
Then there's the aging process. Hardware synths break over time. What you once thought was way cool when you first got it may not be cool as you explore other means of synthesis. There's a reason why there are few DX7's still available and yet a plethora of DX7 virtual instruments on the market.
Dell Vostro i9 64GB Ram Windows 11 Pro, Cubase, Bitwig, Mixcraft Guitar Pod Go, Linntrument Nektar P1, Novation Launchpad
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It also has it's own main banks of sounds, the plugin emulations are just extra banks, thats allsinemotor wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:35 pm
About the Roland System 8, you're aware that's just an hardware controlling software emulations of JP-8, Juno, etc and those emulations are available as plugins.
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- KVRAF
- 8088 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
It all comes down to personal preference. I make better music with a combination of hardware and software than with either alone, and I enjoy it more. (Maybe because I enjoy it more.)
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- KVRian
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Not really, the only similarities with Serum and the Virus are the wavetable oscillators, otherwise it has nothing to do with the Virus. The filters, effects, unison, supersaw, they are all different. Viper on the other hand...sinemotor wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:35 pm If you want the Virus kind of sound, Serum is the closest I find (the best supersaw sound for example) but also so much easier to program because of its interface and features. u-he Hive is a great alternative as well.
http://www.adamszabo.com/ - Synths, soundsets and music
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Hardsynths give you hard ons, software feels like playing cartoon synths. Want to play a heavy phallus symbol or feel you are Homer Simpson? Just ask guitarists about the phallus thing, they usually know. However at the end of the day, neither will help you if you are genetically disposed for talentlessness. Then some music theory will serve you much better. You can ask me about that, I certainly know.
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- KVRAF
- 35718 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Hard to believe that you work as a psychologist. Somehow you completely lack the basic character attributes, e.g. empathy.IncarnateX wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:33 pm Hardsynths give you hard ons, software feels like playing cartoon synths. Want to play a heavy phallus symbol or feel you are Homer Simpson? Just ask guitarists about the phallus thing, they usually know. However at the end of the day, neither will help you if you are genetically disposed for talentlessness. Then some music theory will serve you much better. You can ask me about that, I certainly know.
Most of the time, i don't even know whether you are trolling, or you're really a completely upnosed d***, though.
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Well, I really do not work as a psychologist with clients and all but am a researcher in the fields of special need education and social pedagogy. Here I can concentrate my mandatory feelings of empathy and then go banzai in the opposite direction at KVR. You would understand that psychologists can have a special need for just that, wouldn’t you?
Anyway, is it the guitarists that I lack empathy for or the talentless? In the latter case, it would be lack of self-pity then
Besides from that I do not see any harm in my joking post and it does actually have a hidden point, namely that musical skills go before tools, imo.
Anyway, is it the guitarists that I lack empathy for or the talentless? In the latter case, it would be lack of self-pity then
Besides from that I do not see any harm in my joking post and it does actually have a hidden point, namely that musical skills go before tools, imo.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35525 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
IncarnateX wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:48 pm Well, I really do not work as a psychologist with clients
Obvs
aka 'SPSS-monkey'but am a researcher
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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oh the irony.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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Nope, I do qualitative research. Only use my collegues’ statistics if it support my findings, otherwise I criticize their design.
About the “obvious” stuff about not working with clients. Seems like you guys somehow presume that psychologists cannot be sociopaths and vice versa. Well, we are not granted access to the education by virtue of personality tests but grades, so you may be in for a surprise, guys. Ever read “The dice man”?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dice_Man
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...and there it is again.