Yup, your $700 cables are BS
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
- Banned
- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
Expensive enough for a cable salad 
Regarding those expensive cables, it might be fraud if there really is no difference. It's like with teleshopping where they claim certain effects of cosmetics, food supplements etc. without ever proving it...
Or religion
Regarding those expensive cables, it might be fraud if there really is no difference. It's like with teleshopping where they claim certain effects of cosmetics, food supplements etc. without ever proving it...
Or religion
- KVRAF
- 8433 posts since 18 Apr, 2004
Once more, for old times' sake, the Monster Cable vs. coathanger test
https://forums.audioholics.com/forums/t ... post-15412
https://forums.audioholics.com/forums/t ... post-15412
- KVRAF
- 9578 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
The best quote there is:Michael L wrote: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:17 pmPurist Audio Design sells a 1.5m cable for $25,000. They have been in business for 30 years
https://www.thecableco.com/purist_audio_design.html
Its worth a visit to an audiophile shop - another world!
„Engineering, not marketing“
They aren‘t even made out of pure gold.
The price safely prevent testers from testing it...! And they can be sure there will be no competition...
Even better than the cables is the luminist system enhancer CD/LP/USB stick...
- Beware the Quoth
- 35482 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
I make sure all my digital cables are oxygen-free and crystallographically aligned, otherwise the bits get antialiased.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRian
- 880 posts since 26 Oct, 2011
Pfft, beginner. Unless your cables are manufactured entirely within zero-g environment, they are prone to antialiasing anyway.whyterabbyt wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:03 am I make sure all my digital cables are oxygen-free and crystallographically aligned, otherwise the bits get antialiased.
- KVRAF
- 37449 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
How do they get away with this scam? Someone should take them to court.Tj Shredder wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:23 amThe best quote there is:Michael L wrote: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:17 pmPurist Audio Design sells a 1.5m cable for $25,000. They have been in business for 30 years
https://www.thecableco.com/purist_audio_design.html
Its worth a visit to an audiophile shop - another world!
„Engineering, not marketing“
They aren‘t even made out of pure gold.
The price safely prevent testers from testing it...! And they can be sure there will be no competition...
Even better than the cables is the luminist system enhancer CD/LP/USB stick...![]()
- KVRAF
- 44032 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
They are in the court of public opinion right now. What say we? Shall we get the pitchforks and torches?
This is the same method MJ used when he was working on Anthony Marinelli's Thriller.
- addled muppet weed
- 111304 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
ive got a couple of precision engineered pitchforks with a special 3% niclkeadium alloy for clean and sharp pitchforkery.Aloysius wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:46 pm They are in the court of public opinion right now. What say we? Shall we get the pitchforks and torches?
500 quid to you!
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- KVRian
- 880 posts since 26 Oct, 2011
How you're going to sue them? Like do you honestly think they don't have lawyers who go through each specific statement and how defensible it is in case they go to court? You have to remember, even if they need 90db worth of gain to show the difference, the difference will technically exist. And it's hard to argue against that because they can just always say "But yeah, dude, how much do you think cables can affect the sound? Anyone with any sense should understand this".aMUSEd wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:29 am How do they get away with this scam? Someone should take them to court.
And even if it got that far somehow, they would still be able to point out to the process of dithering, which also happens to be in inaudible range.
- KVRAF
- 37449 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
It just seems strange that no one has challenged their claims legally, the markup here is outrageous, this is Emperor's new clothes bs basically, I don't see how they can get away with it.Functional wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:52 pmHow you're going to sue them? Like do you honestly think they don't have lawyers who go through each specific statement and how defensible it is in case they go to court? You have to remember, even if they need 90db worth of gain to show the difference, the difference will technically exist. And it's hard to argue against that because they can just always say "But yeah, dude, how much do you think cables can affect the sound? Anyone with any sense should understand this".aMUSEd wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:29 am How do they get away with this scam? Someone should take them to court.
And even if it got that far somehow, they would still be able to point out to the process of dithering, which also happens to be in inaudible range.
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- KVRian
- 880 posts since 26 Oct, 2011
Can't sue for extraordinary markup price, 'cause c'est le capitalisme. As much as I wish otherwise, but manipulative marketing is actually encouraged and considered genius in our world.aMUSEd wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:58 pm It just seems strange that no one has challenged their claims legally, the markup here is outrageous, this is Emperor's new clothes bs basically, I don't see how they can get away with it.
- addled muppet weed
- 111304 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
no one can sue because any judge looking at the case would say "if you're stupid enough to fall for a 25k cable, the law cannot help you"Functional wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:04 pmCan't sue for extraordinary markup price, 'cause c'est le capitalisme. As much as I wish otherwise, but manipulative marketing is actually encouraged and considered genius in our world.aMUSEd wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:58 pm It just seems strange that no one has challenged their claims legally, the markup here is outrageous, this is Emperor's new clothes bs basically, I don't see how they can get away with it.
