Yup, your $700 cables are BS

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How good that my cables only cost 10 €...

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Expensive enough for a cable salad :hihi:

Regarding those expensive cables, it might be fraud if there really is no difference. It's like with teleshopping where they claim certain effects of cosmetics, food supplements etc. without ever proving it...
Or religion 8)

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Once more, for old times' sake, the Monster Cable vs. coathanger test
https://forums.audioholics.com/forums/t ... post-15412
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Michael L wrote: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:17 pm
AsPeeXXXVIII wrote: Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:04 pm What kind of cable costs $700, though?
Purist Audio Design sells a 1.5m cable for $25,000. They have been in business for 30 years
https://www.thecableco.com/purist_audio_design.html
Its worth a visit to an audiophile shop - another world!
The best quote there is:
„Engineering, not marketing“
They aren‘t even made out of pure gold.

The price safely prevent testers from testing it...! And they can be sure there will be no competition...

Even better than the cables is the luminist system enhancer CD/LP/USB stick... :hihi:

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I make sure all my digital cables are oxygen-free and crystallographically aligned, otherwise the bits get antialiased.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."

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whyterabbyt wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:03 am I make sure all my digital cables are oxygen-free and crystallographically aligned, otherwise the bits get antialiased.
Pfft, beginner. Unless your cables are manufactured entirely within zero-g environment, they are prone to antialiasing anyway.

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Tj Shredder wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:23 am
Michael L wrote: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:17 pm
AsPeeXXXVIII wrote: Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:04 pm What kind of cable costs $700, though?
Purist Audio Design sells a 1.5m cable for $25,000. They have been in business for 30 years
https://www.thecableco.com/purist_audio_design.html
Its worth a visit to an audiophile shop - another world!
The best quote there is:
„Engineering, not marketing“
They aren‘t even made out of pure gold.

The price safely prevent testers from testing it...! And they can be sure there will be no competition...

Even better than the cables is the luminist system enhancer CD/LP/USB stick... :hihi:
How do they get away with this scam? Someone should take them to court.

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They are in the court of public opinion right now. What say we? Shall we get the pitchforks and torches?
This is the same method MJ used when he was working on Anthony Marinelli's Thriller.

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Aloysius wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:46 pm They are in the court of public opinion right now. What say we? Shall we get the pitchforks and torches?
ive got a couple of precision engineered pitchforks with a special 3% niclkeadium alloy for clean and sharp pitchforkery.

500 quid to you!
:ud:

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:hihi:
This is the same method MJ used when he was working on Anthony Marinelli's Thriller.

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aMUSEd wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:29 am How do they get away with this scam? Someone should take them to court.
How you're going to sue them? Like do you honestly think they don't have lawyers who go through each specific statement and how defensible it is in case they go to court? You have to remember, even if they need 90db worth of gain to show the difference, the difference will technically exist. And it's hard to argue against that because they can just always say "But yeah, dude, how much do you think cables can affect the sound? Anyone with any sense should understand this".

And even if it got that far somehow, they would still be able to point out to the process of dithering, which also happens to be in inaudible range.

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Functional wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:52 pm
aMUSEd wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:29 am How do they get away with this scam? Someone should take them to court.
How you're going to sue them? Like do you honestly think they don't have lawyers who go through each specific statement and how defensible it is in case they go to court? You have to remember, even if they need 90db worth of gain to show the difference, the difference will technically exist. And it's hard to argue against that because they can just always say "But yeah, dude, how much do you think cables can affect the sound? Anyone with any sense should understand this".

And even if it got that far somehow, they would still be able to point out to the process of dithering, which also happens to be in inaudible range.
It just seems strange that no one has challenged their claims legally, the markup here is outrageous, this is Emperor's new clothes bs basically, I don't see how they can get away with it.

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aMUSEd wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:58 pm It just seems strange that no one has challenged their claims legally, the markup here is outrageous, this is Emperor's new clothes bs basically, I don't see how they can get away with it.
Can't sue for extraordinary markup price, 'cause c'est le capitalisme. As much as I wish otherwise, but manipulative marketing is actually encouraged and considered genius in our world.

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Functional wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:04 pm
aMUSEd wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:58 pm It just seems strange that no one has challenged their claims legally, the markup here is outrageous, this is Emperor's new clothes bs basically, I don't see how they can get away with it.
Can't sue for extraordinary markup price, 'cause c'est le capitalisme. As much as I wish otherwise, but manipulative marketing is actually encouraged and considered genius in our world.
no one can sue because any judge looking at the case would say "if you're stupid enough to fall for a 25k cable, the law cannot help you"
:ud:

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... and rightly so.

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