Bitwig 8-Track "free" with CM Magazine.

[vurt]

the blue one is my bugbrand modular.

[toonertik]

Just googled them... couldn't remember the name but yeah.. the Bristol outfit))) cool!

[vurt]

Just googled them... couldn't remember the name but yeah.. the Bristol outfit))) cool!

yeah that's them
he makes some cool stuff.
wish i could have justified the cost of his spring reverb
sounds lovely, but over a grand for a reverb hmmm im not that rich yet

[THE INTRANCER]

Reading through this thread reminded me of this...

[toonertik]

wish i could have justified the cost of his spring reverb
sounds lovely, but over a grand for a reverb hmmm im not that rich yet

That is some wedge for a reverb...
I like the YET bit... but with a growing Eurorack_babby to feed...

[vurt]

a boy can dream

[dellboy]

Get over it.

I did, I deleted it

[toonertik]

a boy can dream

[pdxindy]

Just that people get sick of users trying to bully, push, manipulate and cajole developers into giving them stuff cheaper. It is really disrespectful.

Yawn, you again, where's Thomas and other locals from Bitwig forum, do tell me more please why I need to keep my mouth shut and pretend 8 track is amazing thing?

You can say what you want. And so can I and other people too. I get tired of the whining when you go on and on and on and on about it. You are free to keep talking, and so am I.

[pdxindy]

You seem to think that it is a logical fallacy for someone who owns a lot of equipment to think that you do not need to own a lot of equipment to make good music. Implying that I am a hypocrite (I can only assume that is what you are implying by constantly repeating the phrase 'straw man' like a mantra) because I own a lot of gear whilst saying 8 tracks will be useful/enough for some people (as will the cheap upgrade to the full version) is you opinion and you are welcome to it.

If all I had was Bitwig 8-Track, Bazille, RePro, a guitar and a Mic, I could make very satisfying music.

What people mean when they call it useless is that it is not as convenient as they want it to be. The entitlement is amazing. There is an unending amount of quality software that is free or inexpensive. There is essentially no real limitation these days, and still there is so much complaining.

[SoundPorn]

This is how a free market works. You either adjust or go out of business. Be good or be good at it.

Exactly, totally with you on that, when I suggested that on Bitwig forum, everyone and their dogs jumped at me like it's most bizarre idea ever

Just that people get sick of users trying to bully, push, manipulate and cajole developers into giving them stuff cheaper. It is really disrespectful.

[SoundPorn]

For starters it's not free I pay $5 every month for the magazine. Also storage space and time spent is not free.

But from the sounds of it, it sounds like it's too cut down for me to enjoy. I already got Ableton10 lite with 8 tracks, and StudioOne 4 artists edition that has unlimited tracks but doesn't allow any 3rd party vsts which makes both of them useless to me.

Anybody who needs a free DAW needs to look no further then Cakewalk and Traktion. I bought Waveform9 because I liked Traktion so much. And Reaper is $60 and probably worth atleast 3 times that considering everything it comes with and how powerful it is.

[SoundPorn]

Also Am I the only person who has Soundbridge and Ardour downloaded as well? lol

[codec_spurt]

Computer Music seem to be deliberately obtuse when it comes to their plugins. Sure, they are very generous with what they give away, but finding out what they are 'giving away' is the trick.

I spent a couple of hours researching this. I cut my losses. I no longer care. I'm bored. I'm kind of sickened in fact of Bitwig and I haven't even used it yet! (I did use it on Linux a while back...)

One good thing about Computer Music and the software though is that you can buy it for 3.99 from the internet! Saves a couple of quid from the hard copy and you get it instantly.

You do, however, have to download the whole shebang these days (about 2 Gigs) to get the software to wade through to see what is on there. They give you enough info to tease you, but you'll never really really know until you suck it and see.

After a couple of hours I came to the conclusion that this version of Bitwig is a 8 track version of V2. As opposed to V1. Who knows? Bitwig aren't saying. CM aren't saying. Best just buy the mag and find out eh?

It's a really good setup that CM have these days with the updated 'Vault' or 'Silo'. But the lack of transparency will just drive people away out of virtue of the fact it's bloody annoying. Having to download 2GB files as well just to get a 600KB .dll will irk some also.

I thought it was pretty cool getting Thorn and U-he Bazille and Dune for the price of a beer, plus dozens of other plugins.

CM need to lose the fear. Become more transparent. It's a pretty unique business model as far as I can tell. But no, I'm not going to spend another 2 hours trying to work out why this version of 8-track Bitwig is different from the 8-track Bitwig I can download from their website.

Computer Music has come along in the last couple of years. I'll check back in, in 2020 to see if it's improved again.

Missed opportunities. Great distribution mechanism.

But let's keep it a secret.

This lack of transparency has to be by design and not accident.

Lose the fear. You would sell much more software if people knew what was in the bloody downloads. It's not supposed to be a xmas cracker!

[Russell Grand]

Live Lite is just as limited, no?

No.

It doesn't restrict the amount of VSTs you can use. That's a pretty severe limitation on top of a limited track count.

Oh I agree, sprn. I didn't realize Lite allows unlimited VSTs but since they do, Bitwig is foolish to place such a limitation on their own intro product.