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Tappistry wrote: Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:41 am However, the smaller BlackWinny collection does import automatically in the presets/dx7v/user folder. Each of the .syx files has to be imported individually.

And happy 2019, everybody! :party:
You have to import those files individually because DX7 V doesn't read SYX files directly (it has to convert them, which is what Piet did). The advantage is that you can convert each bank, listen to the 32 presets, and judge immediately which ones you want to preserve. I did that right after I got DX7 V, and kept ONLY those that interested me.

Beware that some of these presets are meant to be used LAYERED TOGETHER. That's what happens, for example with the presets of TX816, DX1 or DX7II. You can load them individually, but to get the real intended sound, you have to load ALL of them in different instances of DX7 V and play them together.

For example, TX816 has eight banks. Each was meant to be loaded in one of the eight cards of the TX816. When you would go play the TX816 through MIDI (which was the only way to play it) you had two options - play each card in its own channel (you would end with a multi-timbral synth) or play ALL cards on the same MIDI channel, in which case you would end with a monster eight-layer synth.

If you look at the eight Banks, you will see, for example, STRGS 2.1 in TX816 1, STRGS 2.2 in TX816 2, STRG.H.2.3 in TX816 3... up to bank TX816 8. All these presets are in position 02, which would meant that, when we sent Program Change 02, each card would play its own corresponding preset. As I said, try load eight instances of DX7 V and load each bank in its own instance, and then play these presets TOGETHER. Then you will have an idea of what a TX816 sounded like, and why it was revered.

The same applies (with just two layers) to DX1, DX5 and DX7II presets.
Fernando (FMR)

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aaron aardvark wrote: Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:27 am
pinbot wrote: Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:00 am db.db3? Where would I find that file?
This is from fmr:

OK, here is a step by step guide. Try to follow it STEP BY STEP

1. Unzip the ZIP file. You should have now a folder named User, with several folders inside it;
2. Copy the entire User folder (do not mess with the contents) to Macintosh HD/Library/Arturia/Presets/DX7 V (you don’t need to create a new folder User because you are already copying a folder called User)
3. Delete the file called db.db3 that’s in the root of Macintosh HD/Library/Arturia/Presets
4. Launch DX7 V stand-alone.
5. Wait for a few minutes while the presets database is rebuilt.
6. Click in the library icon (it's the icon at the right o the Arturia logo). Hopefully, you will see ALL the banks listed after the Factory Bank.
But I have Windows. Where would I find the file on Windows?

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pinbot wrote: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:03 pm
aaron aardvark wrote: Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:27 am
pinbot wrote: Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:00 am db.db3? Where would I find that file?
This is from fmr:

OK, here is a step by step guide. Try to follow it STEP BY STEP

1. Unzip the ZIP file. You should have now a folder named User, with several folders inside it;
2. Copy the entire User folder (do not mess with the contents) to Macintosh HD/Library/Arturia/Presets/DX7 V (you don’t need to create a new folder User because you are already copying a folder called User)
3. Delete the file called db.db3 that’s in the root of Macintosh HD/Library/Arturia/Presets
4. Launch DX7 V stand-alone.
5. Wait for a few minutes while the presets database is rebuilt.
6. Click in the library icon (it's the icon at the right o the Arturia logo). Hopefully, you will see ALL the banks listed after the Factory Bank.
But I have Windows. Where would I find the file on Windows?
ProgramData\Arturia\Presets
Fernando (FMR)

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I found it, deleted it, and it worked.

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PietW. wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:03 pm I've started to convert the massive library for DX7 for the Arturia DX 7V.
Since there are almost 1000 folders, I have to put many sounds into big folders. With almost 20,000 sounds it takes a bit.
Wowzer!
Very cool.

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Hello everyone, this library for DX7V is far too big. Richard Frost has recognized this correctly and that is also my opinion. That's why I have the library here in sysex format for download. So everyone can import one bank after another and save their favorite sounds. There are also a lot of duplicate and the loading times of AnalogLab as well as DX7V are so long. This library is not mine. It was compiled a long time ago by a user.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h9xzcycj3xg0s ... sKXBSgwWz8

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PietW. wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:14 pm Hello everyone, this library for DX7V is far too big. Richard Frost has recognized this correctly and that is also my opinion. That's why I have the library here in sysex format for download. So everyone can import one bank after another and save their favorite sounds. There are also a lot of duplicate and the loading times of AnalogLab as well as DX7V are so long. This library is not mine. It was compiled a long time ago by a user.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h9xzcycj3xg0s ... sKXBSgwWz8
Yes, I agree. If you put everything in a single collection, it will become basically unmanageable. That's why I have been importing the files I got one by one, listening and keeping just the ones I value. And I keep them separate, in banks of 32 presets, as they were in the original.
Fernando (FMR)

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Sorry but I don't found the "14. Jarre Tribute contains over 250 Jarre-like sounds" Can anyone help me? Thanks

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PietW. wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:14 pm Hello everyone, this library for DX7V is far too big. Richard Frost has recognized this correctly and that is also my opinion. That's why I have the library here in sysex format for download. So everyone can import one bank after another and save their favorite sounds. There are also a lot of duplicate and the loading times of AnalogLab as well as DX7V are so long. This library is not mine. It was compiled a long time ago by a user.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h9xzcycj3xg0s ... sKXBSgwWz8
Maybe I'm missing something, but this post says "I have the library here in SYSEX format for download", but it also says "This library...was compiled a long time ago by a user".

So...what is in the library in the Dropbox link? Does it have "a lot of duplicate" sounds, or have most of them been removed?

And does anyone know if Dexed is still being developed? Pascal was working on a fix for something I'd mentioned to him, but that was in March of 2018, and I haven't heard anything about any updates since then.

Steve
Here's some of my stuff: https://soundcloud.com/shadowsoflife. If you hear something you like, I'm looking for collaborators.

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planetearth wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:30 pm And does anyone know if Dexed is still being developed? Pascal was working on a fix for something I'd mentioned to him, but that was in March of 2018, and I haven't heard anything about any updates since then.
Looking at Dexed on Github, the last commit was in 10/2018, and the last response to an issue was in 1/2019. Development has slowed, but it seems like it's still being maintained.

EDIT: There are several issues since January that have not received a response. I suspect (and hope) he'll catch up at some point.

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fasuk wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:08 am Sorry but I don't found the "14. Jarre Tribute contains over 250 Jarre-like sounds" Can anyone help me? Thanks
You might need to unzip the files again. The folder is actually "Set 27 Jarre Tribute", not "14. Jarre Tribute", but it's there.
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I was able to import the SYSEX files in it with no problems, though patches with the word "ORGANIZE" in them are set to leave an oscillator/operator running. It sounds as if a note is stuck, but I guess the patches were designed that way.

Steve
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Here's some of my stuff: https://soundcloud.com/shadowsoflife. If you hear something you like, I'm looking for collaborators.

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Many thanks PietW. Very appreciative of all the time and hard work you invested in this. :D
I wish there were as many presets for Arturias Prophet 5 :hihi:

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PietW. wrote: Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:55 am Hi guys,

I have a new userbank with over 21,500 sounds. They are also from my first user bank. Again, some will be double. A program that finds duplicate files would be great. I hope you enjoy the sounds.
I wish you all the best, health and peace for the New Year.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vcpju0a8fjh2o ... eu.7z?dl=0
Not sure why PietW, but after unzipping these to c:\program data\arturia\dx7 v\user these aren't showing up in my dx7 V. The earlier bank of 8000 aren't showing up either. Any ideas on how to make 'em appear ? Thanks

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Just a note on this collection - I converted the (entire) Blackwhinny SYX collection for Dexed into individual Logic presets, which means you can search by patch name, browse/audition patches from the keyboard etc in Logic.

(I also fixed a number of headerless files in the collection, which won't normally import into Dexed/DX7V.)

(For those working in Logic, having presets as Logic presets is a really convenient and comfortable way to browse for most instruments - which is what the below thread is about.)

This was a huge task, but does make finding DX patches in Dexed way better:
https://www.logicprohelp.com/forum/view ... 40#p733614

Index of all user-contributed Logic presets for instruments and effects that were posted to the thread:
https://www.logicprohelp.com/forum/view ... 8&t=138224

I did convert a bunch of these patches for DX7V when it first came out, but can't remember offhand what I imported, so thanks for this download as another way to conveniently use these patches... I'll check it out, when I can find out which file to grab... ;)
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planetearth wrote: Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:31 amBut how will you determine which of the 21,500+ sounds have identical content unless you listen to each one and assign a hash to each one?
I've used SoundDiver for years, and despite being old and cranky, it is still unsurpassed for patch handling imo.

One of the cool things it can do is check for duplicate patches, *ignoring names*, and I use this feature quite a bit (I'm using it now while reverse engineering the JV/XV sysex format, for instance.)

Obviously, a patch is considered a duplicate if it's parameters are identical, apart from the name, so this won't find patches that only have tiny minor differences, but it would work to eliminate actual duplicates.

Having said that though, I do like having the full banks of the actual sounds as they were, including dupes that may exist in other banks, rather than removing them, so if I was going to dedupe a collection I'd probably keep it separately to the compiled bank version.

I'm not sure I want to take this on at this stage (having only recently finished the Logic conversion of these, which was a marathon), but if I did, the way I would do it is to use automation to pull in each syx file in SoundDiver, copying the patches into a large compiled Library, adding in tags from the file/folder name (so patches could still retain "Bass" metadata when it came from the bass folder etc), automatically eliminating dupes as we go.

(When you paste patches into a library, the patch data of those patches is compared with all existing patches currently in the library, and SD reports on how many dupes there are, and if you want to delete them, etc).

Then you'd ultimately end up with one categorised, deduped library of all those patches. Then you'd need to get them back out into usable form for DX7V/Dexed/Logic/whatever, which would be another automation job (basically exporting that large library back out into syx files of 32 patches each, into category folders (Bass, Pads, Strings etc), and reimporting/converting for target instruments.

For my needs, the current collection of patches works fine, as if I want to find a specific patch, and I can search by name, and it doesn't matter if there are dupes. And individual patch browsing is quick enough that dupes don't really matter - all reasons why I didn't decide to go the extra mile and de-dupe the full collection - too much work for too little gain, imo.

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