Studio One 4 Chord Detector Alternative

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mtelesha
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151 posts since 21 May, 2018

Post Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:54 am

I used Studio One 4 Professional for a few weeks and I only really think one think was great for my use, the chord detector.

Built-in chord detection extracts chords from audio or instrument tracks; simply drag a Part to the Chord Track to create a reference for Harmonic Editing.

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Is there another DAW or preferably another plugin or stand alone that does this? Specifically write the chords onto the Waveform so you can see the chord for the whole song or section?
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Boone777
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728 posts since 8 Aug, 2011

Re: Studio One 4 Chord Detector Alternative

Post Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:03 am

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don1thedon
KVRian
1149 posts since 25 Sep, 2002

Re: Studio One 4 Chord Detector Alternative

Post Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:08 pm


trewq
KVRist
297 posts since 24 Nov, 2008

Re: Studio One 4 Chord Detector Alternative

Post Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:41 pm

'Built-in chord detection extracts chords from audio or instrument tracks'


Can it really extract chords from audio?


How well does it work?

mtelesha
KVRist
151 posts since 21 May, 2018

Re: Studio One 4 Chord Detector Alternative

Post Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:28 pm

It makes the chords detection to be very usable and words the chords it detects on the wave form image. It also then can be copied to the cord track. With the transition detection it works amazingly well and simple to fix false positive.
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tonedef71
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948 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from USA

Re: Studio One 4 Chord Detector Alternative

Post Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:11 pm

Riffstation is a free desktop application that can be used to detect and identify chords from audio: https://pro.riffstation.com/features_page/

Working within your DAW with the identified chords will require manual effort though; there is no DAW integration.
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simmo75
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1215 posts since 25 Mar, 2016 from Seattle

Re: Studio One 4 Chord Detector Alternative

Post Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:51 pm

I’ve not seen or heard of anything that does what Studio One 4’s Chord Detection does. None of the above plugins do it.
It works really well, I wish Ableton would incorporate this and MPE...

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KVRist
243 posts since 8 May, 2018 from Sweden

Re: Studio One 4 Chord Detector Alternative

Post Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:59 pm

trewq wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:41 pm
'Built-in chord detection extracts chords from audio or instrument tracks'


Can it really extract chords from audio?


How well does it work?
It works great most of the time. Not only can you extract the chords, once extracted you can change the chords and the audio will be adjusted to follow the new chords.

trewq
KVRist
297 posts since 24 Nov, 2008

Re: Studio One 4 Chord Detector Alternative

Post Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:10 am

AdvancedFollower wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:59 pm
trewq wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:41 pm
'Built-in chord detection extracts chords from audio or instrument tracks'


Can it really extract chords from audio?


How well does it work?
It works great most of the time. Not only can you extract the chords, once extracted you can change the chords and the audio will be adjusted to follow the new chords.
So just given an audio wave I've recorded, without any note data or midi yet, it will extract the chord(s), or attempt to.


I just wanted to be clear on that before I give it a go.

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KVRist
243 posts since 8 May, 2018 from Sweden

Re: Studio One 4 Chord Detector Alternative

Post Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:21 am

trewq wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:10 am
AdvancedFollower wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:59 pm
trewq wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:41 pm
'Built-in chord detection extracts chords from audio or instrument tracks'


Can it really extract chords from audio?


How well does it work?
It works great most of the time. Not only can you extract the chords, once extracted you can change the chords and the audio will be adjusted to follow the new chords.
So just given an audio wave I've recorded, without any note data or midi yet, it will extract the chord(s), or attempt to.


I just wanted to be clear on that before I give it a go.
Yes, the key words being "attempt to". If it's a simple chord sequence in isolation played on a piano, it will work better than a jazz piece with complex chords, or something that is heavily processed like a pad with a long sustain and tons of reverb etc. You can of course go in manually and correct any chords that are wrong.

Musical Gym
KVRAF
4893 posts since 24 May, 2004 from square1

Re: Studio One 4 Chord Detector Alternative

Post Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:57 am

I played with it a bit and it detected some chords from audio ok, but when I changed one of the chords in the chord track, the audio did not conform to the new chord.

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KVRist
243 posts since 8 May, 2018 from Sweden

Re: Studio One 4 Chord Detector Alternative

Post Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:53 am

Musical Gym wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:57 am
I played with it a bit and it detected some chords from audio ok, but when I changed one of the chords in the chord track, the audio did not conform to the new chord.
You have to activate Chord Follow in the inspector and choose one of the modes (Narrow, Parallel etc.).
https://forums.presonus.com/viewtopic.php?f=153&t=30324

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KVRAF
4893 posts since 24 May, 2004 from square1

Re: Studio One 4 Chord Detector Alternative

Post Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:20 pm

thanks much

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The Noodlist
KVRian
565 posts since 16 Aug, 2017 from Dingleborough UK

Re: Studio One 4 Chord Detector Alternative

Post Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:39 pm

DDMF and HoRNet offer VST chord detection.
viewtopic.php?t=493721

simmo75
KVRian
1215 posts since 25 Mar, 2016 from Seattle

Re: Studio One 4 Chord Detector Alternative

Post Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:41 pm

The Noodlist wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:39 pm
DDMF and HoRNet offer VST chord detection.
viewtopic.php?t=493721
They display the chords that are playing but do not change midi or audio into the chord it shows, Studio One 4’s does.

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