Guessing the Ranking of U-He Synths by Sales Numbers

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omiroad wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:28 pm Poor Bazille...
IMHO the best of all U-He synths

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0degree wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:56 pm
omiroad wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:28 pm Poor Bazille...
IMHO the best of all U-He synths
Certainly my favorite! I'm just happy it exists. I'll keep using it even if it never sees another update. :D
Maybe I'll buy another license just to boost sales a bit. :hihi:

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justin3am wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:16 pmMaybe I'll buy another license just to boost sales a bit. :hihi:
Send it my way then! :lol:

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omiroad wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:34 pm
Urs wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:10 pmBut those won't happen this year anymore...
Will Bazille still receive the VST3 update?
Yes, VST3 + Browser are supposed to happen this year.

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Urs wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:29 pm
omiroad wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:34 pm
Urs wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:10 pmBut those won't happen this year anymore...
Will Bazille still receive the VST3 update?
Yes, VST3 + Browser are supposed to happen this year.
:3

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BAM! :tu:
Urs wrote: Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:17 pm Haven't checked Filterscape and MFM2 sales lately, we'll probably schedule them for makeovers after Uhbik.

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0degree wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:56 pm IMHO the best of all U-He synths
And it sounds unlike any other synth (c) Techno legend Thomas Schumacher
Murderous duck!

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Bazille is a favorite of mine too--for learning synthesis! It's been pretty edifying for me.
MFM2 is a favorite as well. I use it in place of reverb many times, when I want space, but not the tonal/resonant characteristics of a reverb.

Yes, please keep and update these products! :tu:

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Like all the ones before me:
Oh, Bazille.
Indeed my favourite synth of all the ones I've tried, hardware or software.

This is the wrong place to write this, but as we're in a love flow for Bazille, I'll just put it here anyway.
The one thing I miss: An audio input. When dealing with hardware, let's say in a Eurorack, I love to put a recording of some voice or whatever into an input and get it mixed into the synthieness.
As far as I can think of, this would actually be my only wish for Bazille. It's really such a lovely synth.

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I got an offer for bazille, although it wasn’t on my list (zebra is) i’m Thinking of taking it for the sake of completeness.
What can I expect from it?

Where does it lay soundwise in the u-he field?
I have Repro, hive, ace, diva. I’ll buy zebra somewhere this month.
I seem to be using repro and hive the most, but ive had ace the longest and was my first uhr synth, and i still love how it sounds for some fat analog basses. (I like it better than diva most of the time for bass stuff).

I like the fact that it’s less common but i’m not really into modular, but i suppose i could get the hang of it since i work in max often.

How is MPE support?
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I'd put Bazille in between Ace and Zebra I guess...It can do warm and big, and modular bloops and beeps, but also sparkly FM electric pianos and bells, slap basses, super harsh nastiness, and more. If you can manage your way around ACE and get the basic concepts of operator/carrier in something like a DX style synth, Bazille should feel very familiar to you. It also can do CZ style phase distortion in addition to DX-style FM. So it's sort of like an analog body with a digital brain.

Anyway, I'm new to it, but that's my initial take.

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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:48 pm I'd put Bazille in between Ace and Zebra I guess...It can do warm and big, and modular bloops and beeps, but also sparkly FM electric pianos and bells, slap basses, super harsh nastiness, and more. If you can manage your way around ACE and get the basic concepts of operator/carrier in something like a DX style synth, Bazille should feel very familiar to you. It also can do CZ style phase distortion in addition to DX-style FM. So it's sort of like an analog body with a digital brain.

Anyway, I'm new to it, but that's my initial take.
Do you think it's accessible for people who don't know fm synthesis that well but understand the basic concept?

Personally I love the sounds I hear from Bazille, and I'm very tempted by it, but find fm synthesis a bit of a pig to work with and ultimately I just want to get on and make music.

But somehow I'm still drawn to it because I have the underlying feeling that there's gold to be found with time spent with it.....?

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There's a demo...

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omiroad wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:01 pm There's a demo...
Yes, thank you for your input.

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grandmasterbird wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:53 pm
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:48 pm I'd put Bazille in between Ace and Zebra I guess...It can do warm and big, and modular bloops and beeps, but also sparkly FM electric pianos and bells, slap basses, super harsh nastiness, and more. If you can manage your way around ACE and get the basic concepts of operator/carrier in something like a DX style synth, Bazille should feel very familiar to you. It also can do CZ style phase distortion in addition to DX-style FM. So it's sort of like an analog body with a digital brain.

Anyway, I'm new to it, but that's my initial take.
Do you think it's accessible for people who don't know fm synthesis that well but understand the basic concept?

Personally I love the sounds I hear from Bazille, and I'm very tempted by it, but find fm synthesis a bit of a pig to work with and ultimately I just want to get on and make music.

But somehow I'm still drawn to it because I have the underlying feeling that there's gold to be found with time spent with it.....?
I'm no virtual modular geek by any means either. I'd much prefer things like the U-he style Mod Matrix , Zebra, and the Massive-style modulations found in Plugmon skins over interacting with patch cables. Now, that said, Bazille has a pretty excellent manual with some practical tips, and quite a few examples, along with a Tips and Tricks set of patches that correspond to a section of the manual. They've done a really good job in trying to make it approachable if you're willing to go slow and crack open the manual. Plus

I'd say as you demo, crack open the manual and try going through it one section at a time. If you can also find a good video tutorial on DX-style FM synthesis, that really helps. I saw a video on Groove3 on the DX-7V that helped clarify for me how the algorithms work (operators vs. carriers and how they interact), and now I finally have a basic grasp of what's happening in a DX-style synth. Then that knowledge ends up becoming helpful with other things like Bazille and Zebra. So that's another thing I'd recommend.

Also, Bazille has over 1,500 patches from what I recall, so you could always just check out what's there and tweak.

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