SampleTank 4 on the way

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lazyeye
KVRer
14 posts since 19 Dec, 2004

Post Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:49 pm

Hi,

I received a response to my support request instructing me to update the to newest version of ST4 (4.0.3), the newest sound library, and to re-download all the samples.

So I've reinstalled ST4 and the sound library, but do I/should I delete/uninstall all the old samples before installing all the new, re-downloaded samples? I don't want them taking up room in my hard drive, but I am not sure if they have to be left installed or not.

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Burillo
KVRAF
3371 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Hell

Re: SampleTank 4 on the way

Post Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:58 pm

why would you need the old samples when you're reinstalling?
From Russia with love

lazyeye
KVRer
14 posts since 19 Dec, 2004

Re: SampleTank 4 on the way

Post Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:07 pm

Burillo wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:58 pm
why would you need the old samples when you're reinstalling?
That's exactly what I thought. But things haven't exactly gone smoothly with the ST4 launch, and I'm paranoid, that for some bizarre and inexplicable reason that having the original samples would be a prerequisite for the new samples to work.

At this point, nothing would surprise me.

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Burillo
KVRAF
3371 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Hell

Re: SampleTank 4 on the way

Post Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:39 pm

you were told to redownload all the samples. what you would be downloading are the original samples, plus updates.
From Russia with love

MikeCallon
KVRist
310 posts since 2 Jan, 2004

Re: SampleTank 4 on the way

Post Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:39 pm

And for us USB users...are we going to get a new USB shipped with correct/fixed files on it?

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popskull
KVRist
175 posts since 22 Dec, 2009

Re: SampleTank 4 on the way

Post Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:00 pm

ST4 sounds good but its been really frustrating. Ive reinstalled the latest version and sound library. I still can't get The Grid to work, its authorised and installed but comes up as locked. Why is it also that Philharmonik CE and Syntronik Free comes up in the list of libraries ( I have the list set to authorised ) as download icons. I have Philharmonik 2 and Syntronik Deluxe installed and working ok. No big issues , as I don't use The Grid or now can't, and Philharmonik CE and Syntronik Free are just there in the way. Its messy. How does one import legacy libraries, if possible? I have some old Xpander banks?

quilys
KVRist
52 posts since 26 Jul, 2014

Re: SampleTank 4 on the way

Post Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:00 pm

lazyeye wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:07 pm
Burillo wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:58 pm
why would you need the old samples when you're reinstalling?
That's exactly what I thought. But things haven't exactly gone smoothly with the ST4 launch, and I'm paranoid, that for some bizarre and inexplicable reason that having the original samples would be a prerequisite for the new samples to work.

At this point, nothing would surprise me.

...more than realizing that it is crap

Mushy Mushy
KVRAF
11017 posts since 7 Sep, 2008

Re: SampleTank 4 on the way

Post Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:03 pm

SampleTank 4 Now Available! Your new fast-track

:lol: :lol: :lol:
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

HM
KVRist
448 posts since 14 Aug, 2001 from DK

Re: SampleTank 4 on the way

Post Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:28 am

ST4, "Rompler from Hell" ,.. so bizar that it gets funny :lol:

But not funny for those that got their money and time stolen, working free fro IK as beta's

Still missing the tool they paid for

Money is money, but even worse is the time they steal, becourse you wil never get that time back

And then comes the aspect of being fooled, and participate in a bad joke

--------------------------

For me stepping out after the ST3, and latest T-Racks mess, has made me take a break, and explore
Presence XT once again, as found in the latest S1 ver 4, such a nice and well-supplied rompler with sounds that I actually feels like using, in oposition to ST3, that remained uninspiring, and unused to

Wasted money and time ST3 was

Presence, and S1, alle the versions, in contrary, never coursed me ONE single problem,... EVER !!

Hard to believe I guess, for someone, but its actually possible to make a rompler that just works :-)

(given you have the competence obviously)

Right now I am importing JRR's new Orpheus library into Presence XT via EXS-format, seems to work

Guess I kinda forgot how well-equipped Presence actually is when I bought ST3, typical GAS :-)

And for more specialised stuff, not being bread and butter, there is more specialised plugs anyway

But there is lots of favourits in Presence, that stand the distance until final mix :tu:
HM

Elektronisch
KVRAF
2987 posts since 3 Feb, 2010

Re: SampleTank 4 on the way

Post Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:44 am

Ok, so its been month since the release, how is it working for those who had not been able to make it work before? or had troubles? had updates solved them?

p.s. please dont replay those who had it working right without problems from the start :)

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Bombadil
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3163 posts since 31 Aug, 2013 from Far From the Twisted Reach of Crazy Sorrow

Re: SampleTank 4 on the way

Post Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:52 am

You mean all two of them?
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Dennis

Elektronisch
KVRAF
2987 posts since 3 Feb, 2010

Re: SampleTank 4 on the way

Post Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:53 am

Bombadil wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:52 am
You mean all two of them?
I thought the questions are very clear, dont know how make it more clear :)
Ok, so its been month since the release, how is it working for those who had not been able to make it work before? or had troubles? had updates solved them?

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Bombadil
KVRAF
3163 posts since 31 Aug, 2013 from Far From the Twisted Reach of Crazy Sorrow

Re: SampleTank 4 on the way

Post Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:04 am

I meant those for whom it worked right away. Nevermind. I feel bad for all of you, but it's trainwreck that's hard to look away from. Sorry.... :shrug:
“We're an Anarcho-Syndicalist commune”
Dennis

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Teksonik
KVRAF
12345 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Re: SampleTank 4 on the way

Post Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:34 am

And what did we learn ladies and gentlemen ?

When IK says "Pre-Order" what we do we say ? That's right "Hell NO".

We say "finish your product, properly test it, then release a demo so we can try it out before buying".
No more "go fund me" for you. :wink:

I must have learned from an earlier IK release because I had a gut feeling not to do the pre-order.

But I would like to personally thank all of the KVR Beta Test Team for early adopting ST4 and saving the rest of us money and lots of frustration. :hihi:

Buying ST4 now would be like asking for a big plate of Sushi after knowing that several people got violently ill after eating it. Yea a few people ate it without any ill effects but who's going to take a chance ? :lol:
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

zzz00m
KVRAF
1798 posts since 17 Sep, 2016

Re: SampleTank 4 on the way

Post Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:59 am

"SushiTank 4" :lol:

I am still experiencing unpredictable crashes when loading and switching certain instruments in the ST4 library.

I have a ticket open with support for this. After a month and 3 patches, I still don't feel that it is ready for daily use yet, but I am hopeful that it will get worked out. Until then I'll just stick with the ST3 content.

ST4 has a lot of potential, and that is the most frustrating thing. It sounds great, but doesn't quite meet expectations regarding stability.
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