KVR Audio

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:37 pm

I really like the mellow color scheme, and overall use of colors. A few things stand out to me as odd, like:

1. Sub2 to the left of Osc2 - get the symetry thing but my eyes go from left to right and Osc2 is more important and more likely to see use

2. The Cutoff and Resonance knobs are burried in the filter section (burying the lede). I'd probably put Cutoff and Responance where the Input and Volume knobs are, and adjust some things in that bottom row.

3. I'd probably put Mod1 to the left of Amp1. Most hardware synths are going to put the filter envelope (which is what Mod1 is more commonly assigned to) to the left of the amp envelope. This would also make it more consistent with Mod2, Amp2 (which are in the inverse order to Mod1/Amp1). The mirror image thing doesn't add value in this instance and would just have me reach for the wrong envelope.

Question: can the Global FX state, and individual FX states be locked in Hive 2? Sometimes I want to browse dry patches, or at least patches with no reverb, and having a lock on the on/off states would be awesome. Right now, I've been locking the reverb mix to 0, which is almost as good.

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:38 pm

nothing is labelled in the MM

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:47 pm

AnX wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:38 pm nothing is labelled in the MM

We believe in mankind.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:51 pm

Urs wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:47 pm
AnX wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:38 pm nothing is labelled in the MM
We believe in mankind.

Bodhisan · Post by **Bodhisan** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:54 pm

Urs wrote: Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:25 pm Not finished in terms of contrasts and stuff, but a rough glimpse at what we're going for:

Thoughts?

(we've got until, say, early April to change things...)

UIs are so like car designs - which is why we see everything available out on the road.

I prefer the above design - so I hope that there are options. I like the colors because it's simply more fun to look at. Of course there are those who disagree, but there are those who agree....such is life.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:55 pm

Urs wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:47 pm
AnX wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:38 pm nothing is labelled in the MM
We believe in mankind.

Please don't, haha

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:55 pm

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:37 pm1. Sub2 to the left of Osc2 - get the symetry thing but my eyes go from left to right and Osc2 is more important and more likely to see use

We tried, it would make Hive look like

2. The Cutoff and Resonance knobs are burried in the filter section (burying the lede). I'd probably put Cutoff and Responance where the Input and Volume knobs are, and adjust some things in that bottom row.

Lots of discussions here. We can refine this if necessary. We've planned to do some tests, but nothing set in stone.

3. I'd probably put Mod1 to the left of Amp1. Most hardware synths are going to put the filter envelope (which is what Mod1 is more commonly assigned to) to the left of the amp envelope. This would also make it more consistent with Mod2, Amp2 (which are in the inverse order to Mod1/Amp1). The mirror image thing doesn't add value in this instance and would just have me reach for the wrong envelope.

That's been subject to many discussions too. I'm not sure which way really is better.

Question: can the Global FX state, and individual FX states be locked in Hive 2? Sometimes I want to browse dry patches, or at least patches with no reverb, and having a lock on the on/off states would be awesome. Right now, I've been locking the reverb mix to 0, which is almost as good.

Global state can be locked, individual ones not yet. This is on our list, but maybe has to wait until a 2.x update.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:57 pm

Bodhisan wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:54 pmI prefer the above design - so I hope that there are options. I like the colors because it's simply more fun to look at. Of course there are those who disagree, but there are those who agree....such is life.

I like more colours, too. There'll be further discussion.

Plus, we have built-in Exposure and Hue/Sat/Brightness filters for each UI image now. It'll be easy to try and adjust things.

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:02 pm

Thanks for getting back Urs! Super stoked for this release.

Urs wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:55 pm
2. The Cutoff and Resonance knobs are burried in the filter section (burying the lede). I'd probably put Cutoff and Responance where the Input and Volume knobs are, and adjust some things in that bottom row.
Lots of discussions here. We can refine this if necessary. We've planned to do some tests, but nothing set in stone.

I'd suggest Cutoff and Resonance where the Input and Volume are. Then bottom row: have it start with input volume on the far left, and the output volume on the far right. From a graphical perspective, you'd be looking at minimal changes, but I think it would increase usability in a logical way.

WolfKay · Post by **WolfKay** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:09 pm

Bodhisan wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:54 pm
Urs wrote: Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:25 pm
I prefer the above design - so I hope that there are options. I like the colors because it's simply more fun to look at.

Yep, this one was really great indeed…

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:11 pm

WolfKay wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:09 pm Yep, this one was really great indeed…

Well, it was also quite unusable. Visually great, but too few clues as to what's important and how things work. I could not get used to editing oscillator and filter in this one.

Sinisterbr · Post by **Sinisterbr** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:16 pm

Urs wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:17 pm Just, you know, keeping you up to date where we're heading with this...

Still a bit of work ahead, little colour corrections, a few pixels or highlights here and there.

It looks absolutely gorgeous. I would like to give just a little a suggestion:

In the upper gray area there are many similar knobs, and I see that you tried to highlight the more important ones (cutoff, resonance, volumes) with bolder labels around them, but I think it should be even more highlighted (well, I'd shrink the filter mod/lfo knobs as well, but it's not that important)

Ranoka · Post by **Ranoka** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:19 pm

I love the latest design!
I do also like how the OSC and Filters look grouped in the older design, but the newer design seems clearer and easier to use without learning. Having the OSC and filter horizontal instead of vertical makes better use of the space.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:20 pm

Urs wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:17 pm Just, you know, keeping you up to date where we're heading with this...

Still a bit of work ahead, little colour corrections, a few pixels or highlights here and there.

since the osc/filter blocks and the modulator blocks are now of equal height, wouldnt it be better to have similar sections mirrored vertically rather than horizontally? (ie both osc and filter blocks on the right, both lfo/amp/env/function blocks on the left)

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:20 pm

i love hive's sound and u-he products i think i got over 60%, the rest i just dont need but i still dont like HIVE's gui, it looks like a cheap synth somehow with the hexagon, no offense!
i dunno if this thing doesnt block the ease of use somehow. im open for new styled and modern GUI's (not the waves ones....) but it doesnt click yet for me, i got hive in the intro sale and wasnt dissapointed with the sound, FAT, and dirty if you want and massive!
it always reminds me of DIVERSION, i like its design also not much yet.

still i cannot wait for HIVE 2!

Hive 2 is coming!