Agree with both. I got excited for a bit, but the e-licenser helped me control this purchase. Also, I find Cubase Pro fairly complicated for someone coming from FL Studio in particular, so it will be a significant time investment, which is probably unnecessary.telecode wrote: Fri May 10, 2019 2:19 pmmgw38 wrote: Fri May 10, 2019 1:56 pm If you are just thinking of picking it but because of the fear of missing out but don't really have the means for it, then don't. But if the $160-166 price-tag you can currently get at retailers is not that big a deal for you, then you might want to pick it up regardless.
^^ Just to add to this, OP, get what you think you need. Don't just get because it's a deal. C 10 Pro is a high end pro DAW. Some believe it may be too much over kill for a home recording producer type enthusiast. Don't forget, you will get charged down the road when its time to upgrade to 10.5 or 11.0
Some other DAWs don't have that policy.![]()
Huge sale on Cubase 10 - 50% off for new purchases or crossgrades
- KVRAF
- 6300 posts since 12 Jan, 2018
- KVRAF
- 26978 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Go look at the changelogs over the past few years... quite impressivemgw38 wrote: Fri May 10, 2019 2:57 pmNot sure if I agree. I do have Logic but it is one of the few DAWs I decided to deinstall so I might be not completely up to speed. I really pains me to say this because I am a passionate Apple user, but Logic’s plugin scanner is currently the worst on the market. Which is astonishing considering it only scans plugins in Apple format. Does not give me a lot of confidence to be honest.pdxindy wrote: Fri May 10, 2019 2:08 pmLogic updates have been extensive and at a good pace for a while now... and of course all freemgw38 wrote: Fri May 10, 2019 1:56 pm Steinberg is a fairly reliable developer. And they recently have been advancing their software at a rather rapid pace. Much more so than Ableton does with Live or Apple with Logic.
Logic did languish for a good while and so the impression was there that development was slow. Hasn't been the case in the last few years though.
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- KVRist
- 328 posts since 27 Apr, 2004 from Always here
Cubase was the first DAW I learnt and used. I'd re-invest in it again but I just hate dongles. I have an aversion to them. They were very popular along time ago but most companies use online activation DRM now. Why are Steinberg living in the past in this respect ? Even Blackmagic (DaVinci/Fusion) have recently dropped using dongles and replaced it with online activation/DRM.
To be honest, I can't abide ilok either.
To be honest, I can't abide ilok either.
- KVRAF
- 6300 posts since 12 Jan, 2018
Yeah, if e-licenser was not required, there would have been even more sales. I like how Waves moved from iLok to cloud-based or normal USB drive based activation. And when that happened with V9 a few years ago, I could finally get my hands on them. That move would have boosted their sales like anything.luxgud wrote: Fri May 10, 2019 6:21 pm Cubase was the first DAW I learnt and used. I'd re-invest in it again but I just hate dongles. I have an aversion to them. They were very popular along time ago but most companies use online activation DRM now. Why are Steinberg living in the past in this respect ? Even Blackmagic (DaVinci/Fusion) have recently dropped using dongles and replaced it with online activation/DRM.
To be honest, I can't abide ilok either.
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midi_transmission midi_transmission https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=298730
- KVRian
- 1045 posts since 13 Feb, 2013
I think restrictive online DRMs are much worse than a hardware dongle.
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- KVRian
- 1286 posts since 7 Dec, 2013 from Earth
Not sure about that, but there would definitely be more piracy. E-Licenser with dongle just works, the last Cubase version that ever got 'cracked' is Cubase 5. The only newer versions of Cubase that got pirated are the Elements versions because they don't require a dongle.LoveEnigma18 wrote: Fri May 10, 2019 6:25 pm Yeah, if e-licenser was not required, there would have been even more sales.
I recently purchased a new PC and found that Cubase was actually one of the easiest things to get up and running. Just move the dongle to the new PC, download and install Cubase and it just works without any online activation or entering serials.
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jacqueslacouth jacqueslacouth https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=48379
- KVRian
- 1149 posts since 18 Nov, 2004
For those of us struggling with GAS on this "deal"...I am keeping on reminding myself that I'm not actually saving money by spending money unnecessarily. I mean what exactly am I missing out on when I already have Ableton, Logic Pro X, Studio One 4, Reason and even Cubase Artist ??? Honestly? Absolutely nothing (ok, there might be the odd thing, but do I actually NEED any of it?) and as I am really well invested in the use of Logic, a Cubase upgrade would probably just sit there taking up HD space gathering virtual dust....
There....convinced myself for the next half hour at least...
There....convinced myself for the next half hour at least...
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jacqueslacouth jacqueslacouth https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=48379
- KVRian
- 1149 posts since 18 Nov, 2004
Although....I am planning on migrating to Windows with my next computer purchase....
No!!! Stop it!!!! Go for a walk!!!!
No!!! Stop it!!!! Go for a walk!!!!
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- KVRAF
- 35687 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
A changelog says nothing about the amount of major features or changes which have been implemented. Every Reaper changelog is packed full of stuff they changed, which in most cases happens to be very, very minor changes. I don't know if you're familiar with Cubase, but, the changes from most major versions are pretty substantial. There is absolutely zero doubt that it's the fastest evolving DAW.pdxindy wrote: Fri May 10, 2019 3:07 pmGo look at the changelogs over the past few years... quite impressivemgw38 wrote: Fri May 10, 2019 2:57 pmNot sure if I agree. I do have Logic but it is one of the few DAWs I decided to deinstall so I might be not completely up to speed. I really pains me to say this because I am a passionate Apple user, but Logic’s plugin scanner is currently the worst on the market. Which is astonishing considering it only scans plugins in Apple format. Does not give me a lot of confidence to be honest.pdxindy wrote: Fri May 10, 2019 2:08 pmLogic updates have been extensive and at a good pace for a while now... and of course all freemgw38 wrote: Fri May 10, 2019 1:56 pm Steinberg is a fairly reliable developer. And they recently have been advancing their software at a rather rapid pace. Much more so than Ableton does with Live or Apple with Logic.
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- KVRAF
- 35687 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
jacqueslacouth wrote: Fri May 10, 2019 7:02 pm Although....I am planning on migrating to Windows with my next computer purchase....![]()
No!!! Stop it!!!! Go for a walk!!!!![]()
The money i already spent this year, even though i didn't want to spend ANY in the next time already is the best cure against GAS... remembering that Studio One is my fav anyway, and that i don't need any of the enhanced features of Cubase Pro as a hobbyist does the rest really. Nah. Wallet secured and safe.
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- KVRAF
- 2069 posts since 13 Dec, 2016
I´m using different DAWs for years now and while Cubase is really playing in the premier league regarding so many different factors, always aiming for the professionals in the music industry, it is not the most creative one.
Like with many other things in life, we have to use different tools for different tasks. While Cubase is brilliant and second to none for expression in huge orchestral templates and scoring projects, I love to go wild with Ableton Live for electronic music and deep sound design. With Bitwig 3, a new gate will open for my creative flow and its very important to have the freedom to choose between different tools.
Its over for Bitwig--CUBASE WON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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- KVRian
- 518 posts since 14 Oct, 2006
Do you guys think cubase pro 10 is good for electronic music compared to ableton or is ableton way better?
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- KVRAF
- 35687 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
It really depends on what you want to do with it, i guess. Pretty different workflows.
FWIW, i never gel'd with Ableton. Actually, i quite detested it every time i tried it, because i just couldn't figure out how the thing works...
FWIW, i never gel'd with Ableton. Actually, i quite detested it every time i tried it, because i just couldn't figure out how the thing works...