I looked at used copies but people are asking $200-$250 with no upgrade plan.
I bought it new and get 1 year of updates for $399.
And why exactly is that important? If being the cheapest is your main criteria for using a DAW you're doing it for the wrong reasons
I was just curious.
I know it matters, but shouldn't be a deciding factor.telecode wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 2:52 pmI was just curious.
But we need to be honest. Price does play an important factor in DAW and tool selection in general.
A couple people have done cost comparisons related to Bitwig, but they had an agenda to make Bitwig look expensive as a form of complaint about the pricing model. I have yet to see one with a sincere effort to make as unbiased an assessment as possible... especially including both price and some assessment of development pace and overall advancement of the software during the chosen timeframe.telecode wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 2:52 pmI was just curious.
But we need to be honest. Price does play an important factor in DAW and tool selection in general.
If you own a house and just need a drill you might use once or twice ... Save some money and get a cheap one. If you are in the construction industry and know you will be building houses and neighborhoods, get the best one on market .
But back to DAWs, it's good to look at what is roughy the cost of 5 years of ownership if you want to keep up to date..That gives a much better perspective on what the actual DAW costs you.
In my case, price is important, but not the most important. If I wanted to stay low, I would just use Reaper. But I have no qualms with paying extra for features and functionality that I will use and that will save time. It all plays a factor in cost of ownership.
I have both those DAWs, and Cubase is going to cost more than Studio One if I want to update it once a year,pretty much on a par with Bitwig.
It would make sense that S1 would be much less than Cubase. S1 and a new entrant in the linear DAW market.dellboy wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 5:28 pmI have both those DAWs, and Cubase is going to cost more than Studio One if I want to update it once a year,pretty much on a par with Bitwig.
The easy way to cost Bitwig is on a daily cup of coffee basis.
First year will cost 133 cups of coffee ($3 a cup) 1\3rd cup of coffee daily.
Subsequent years 56 cups of coffee. roughly 1\6th cup of coffee daily.
So if you like a portion of Bitwig per day better than coffee that's how much coffee you have to give up to use it.
I agree. A deciding factor should be comfort with workflow and features used/needed. As I said, I have no issue paying extra for good features I will use.antic604 wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 3:03 pmI know it matters, but shouldn't be a deciding factor.telecode wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 2:52 pmI was just curious.
But we need to be honest. Price does play an important factor in DAW and tool selection in general.
Also, the calculation made a lot of assumptions that may or may not be true, e.g. how often will you be buying the 12-months plan (upgrades might come out timed in such a way you'll effectively update every 18 months for example, or you might decide to skip one or two because they add nothing for you), or how frequently Ableton will update Live (it's not a given they're in 4-5 years cycle now just because it's what it took them to get from 9 to 10), etc.
I agree 100%Cyclomatic wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2019 10:08 am They should focus on features, UI/UX, workflow improvements, and integrations.
I'm very hopeful for Bitwig's future and I see myself using it for a long, long time. It's the first DAW I've ever used, and I'm glad I made that choice. The UI seems to be a lot more intuitive and simple than all of its competitors. They just need to keep playing catch-up with the other big DAWs.
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