Thanks for a modicum of hope! Yeah, it's true, it's still very niche (I guess many haven't even tried it yet, since most of those I know who did give MPE controllers a try made the switch pretty fast).PieBerger wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:14 amIt's high up in the list and although Ableton have been very slow to respond to such requests they do seem to be churning them out now. With BWS hot their heels they're certainly under more pressure. My guess is that comping will come first, maybe in the next point release or point 3, because that is more likely to bring new revenue vs MPE which is still kind of niche, relatively speaking. I reckon we'll see MPE 10.5.
Ableton Live 10.1 now in Beta
- KVRist
- 232 posts since 11 Oct, 2012
Some music with visuals and mixed tutorials related to game dev and sound design: https://www.youtube.com/@MetasideOfficial
- KVRian
- 1100 posts since 9 Jan, 2015 from NY, NY
Is MPE being high on the list for Ableton based on any inside knowledge?
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- KVRAF
- 2342 posts since 15 Feb, 2006 from Berkeley, CA
Live is already my main DAW, the only reason I start projects in Logic or Reason is for comping. At other forums I see more gripes about Live's lack of comping than MPE (which of course they should prioritize too)...I suspect there are many more people out there needing to manage multiple takes than there are owners of MPE-capable hardware.jonljacobi wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:57 pm Hmm, I think the arranger is so visually cluttered and the mixer somewhat limited that comping still won’t attract the track-based crowd. MPE would seem to be a more likely add, to retain existing customers.
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- KVRAF
- 2021 posts since 23 May, 2012 from London
It's from the beta program, there's a forum for submitting requests and users can up vote and comment. Comping is right at the top as the most beta user up voted request, nearly 200 more votes clear of the next request down the list.Deep Purple wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:54 pm Is MPE being high on the list for Ableton based on any inside knowledge?
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- KVRAF
- 1855 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
I would much rather see them address the routing limitations of the mixer (namely: allow both "MIDI To" and "Audio To" at the same time on the same track) and support inline MIDI VST effects before worrying about MPE. This would require some deep architectural rewiring in itself.PieBerger wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:40 pmIt's the top requested feature in the beta forum by a considerable margin (411 vs 132 for MPE)jonljacobi wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:57 pm Hmm, I think the arranger is so visually cluttered and the mixer somewhat limited that comping still won’t attract the track-based crowd. MPE would seem to be a more likely add, to retain existing customers.
I've come to like Bitwig's "pull, don't push" solution to this issue: The Note and Audio receiver modules. It's far more flexible.
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- KVRAF
- 6086 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
Of course, my least interested in request. To be honest though, I love writing music in Live, I hate mixing in it, so I'm not that interested in the parts of Live that I think are done better in DAWs like Reaper or DP like recording audio that you play live.PieBerger wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:10 pmIt's from the beta program, there's a forum for submitting requests and users can up vote and comment. Comping is right at the top as the most beta user up voted request, nearly 200 more votes clear of the next request down the list.Deep Purple wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:54 pm Is MPE being high on the list for Ableton based on any inside knowledge?
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- KVRist
- 417 posts since 9 Jun, 2005
I wonder if they'll ever implement a touch / latch read write automation system in Live?
The new automation features are nice but so laborious in terms of clicking all over the place. How about a key command assignment system? Live is so far behind in these aspects.
The new automation features are nice but so laborious in terms of clicking all over the place. How about a key command assignment system? Live is so far behind in these aspects.
- KVRAF
- 35215 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
What are the new automation features?
- KVRAF
- 4590 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
Editing envelopes like in FL plugins (scretch, invert etc). Quite awesome.
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Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
- KVRian
- 1100 posts since 9 Jan, 2015 from NY, NY
I've been waiting for that for so long now - IMO it's probably THE most useful feature that will be included in 10.1DJ Warmonger wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:09 amEditing envelopes like in FL plugins (scretech, invert etc). Quite awesome.
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- KVRAF
- 2796 posts since 26 Jul, 2015 from Philadelphia
It is worth waiting. I am working with the beta version. It is the first Live 10 release that feels solid. Personally I do not use VST3s (yet) but I think they had some issues getting that to work correctly.
- KVRian
- 1440 posts since 25 Sep, 2011
We’re at the fourth release candidate, so..any day now. And I agree with you, it feels rock solid, great features. Can’t wait to see what Ableton may bring to 10.2, 10.5, etc.
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- KVRian
- 1194 posts since 23 May, 2016
There is still a problem in the current RC4 concerning VST3. Usually they'll release 2 weeks after the RC which has no major bugs reported.