U-He plugins are very sluggish on Live 10.0.5 and Mojave 10.14.2

[grumpyG]

I have this same problem on Mac+Ableton, and notice it most when you open the MSEG large editor. Moving points around are incredibly slow, especially if there is a loop going. In Bitwig it's the same thing.

However, awhile back I found this post because I had the same problem with Reason:

https://www.reddit.com/r/reasoners/comm ... _high_res/

I tried Setting => Display => Color => choose "sRGB IEC61966-2.1" and it is MUCH faster!

Thanks for that - this tip made a HUGE difference for me - 2018 mbp touchbar 13" on 10.14.4.

I was getting annoying interface lag in general - especially in the patch browser in Zebra2 but all is good after changing the colour profile.

[eldigi]

I have this same problem on Mac+Ableton, and notice it most when you open the MSEG large editor. Moving points around are incredibly slow, especially if there is a loop going. In Bitwig it's the same thing.

However, awhile back I found this post because I had the same problem with Reason:

https://www.reddit.com/r/reasoners/comm ... _high_res/

I tried Setting => Display => Color => choose "sRGB IEC61966-2.1" and it is MUCH faster!

WOW it fixed my issue!
thanks a lot

[DrGonzo]

I know a bit about computers, or at least I thought I did, but how changing a display profile can speed things up is really beyond me. Cool tip and thanks for sharing!

/C

[#rob]

It worked for us, too.

We have a Dell 27" USB-C display here, and while the overall Mojave experience was alright via HDMI, we also encountered super-sluggish scopes, knobs, etc. when connecting the display via USB-C/TB3.

Switching to other colour profiles had varying effect on the drawing speed, but this one very specific sRGB colour profile made things really fast again. No clue how or why.

[jschwa]

I'm on the latest 10.1 of Ableton. Each click in the Diva Gui is taking multiple seconds to register. I tried the color profile trick and it didn't work.

[Forgotten]

I'm on the latest 10.1 of Ableton. Each click in the Diva Gui is taking multiple seconds to register. I tried the color profile trick and it didn't work.

Which version of MacOS?

In Live 10.1 and MacOS 10.14.5 Diva works fine for me with no issues.

[Urs]

Some news on this: We've deployed a few little tips and tricks we gathered from the developer community. We think we have found a solution to bring hardware acceleration back to our UIs without overly deep surgeries. We plan to post intermediate versions (Latest Builds) of Hive, ACE, Bazille and Diva in a few weeks. The results are very promising, but we have found only one machine in our HQs which really suffered big time.

Other optimizations and bugfixes nicely reduce CPU consumption for UIs on Windows and possibly Linux as well.

Can't wait to post this stuff!

[DrGonzo]

Wonderful news! This is probably the last reason for me not to update to Mojave. But sorry for the "welcome to amateur"-hour question, but how the heck do one measure CPU UI consumption?

/C

[EvilDragon]

You compare CPU usage at the OS level with the plugin window open vs plugin window closed.

[DrGonzo]

Lol... I should have thought of that. Cheers

/C

[Urs]

And also, once you've seen the UI update rate on Mojave with 2-5 frames per second, you simply *know* that something is completely off.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Thankfully this wasn't a six month deep dive into GUI code. Good news all around!

[EvilDragon]

I know a bit about computers, or at least I thought I did, but how changing a display profile can speed things up is really beyond me. Cool tip and thanks for sharing!

Converting between colorspaces is done with some code, and apparently Apple's function to convert to a certain colorspace is not exactly well optimized.

[perpetual3]

I’ve got to try this Mojave was the worst upgrade I made, Apple clueless to help.

[Urs]

Of course we have only internal testing so far, but here Hive 2 /w updated drawing feels like a whole new visual experience again