Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive (Out Now!)

[Mushy Mushy]

Not sure about the "rushed release" though, after all, it was delayed for almost half a year.

Well, i have Massive and now there's Massive X. But where's Massive II, Massive III, Massive IV, Massive V etc. ?

In the warehouse with Windows 9, the iPhone 9 and FL Studio 19.

Releases with 9 don't sell very well in Germany.

Nein, nein, nein.

[McLilith]

is that an edm act?

tonight
artificial knob resistance!


support from
lfos over nyquist.

Yeah. That was the old name. After one of the members left, the name was shortened to "Knob Resistance" — sort of like how Jefferson Starship later became Starship.

[neodeavid]

I like R.E.M.

i was thinking mogwai.
next contestant!

Take it easy man, all it's a joke

[dionenoid]

is that an edm act?

tonight
artificial knob resistance!


support from
lfos over nyquist.

Yeah. That was the old name. After one of the members left, the name was shortened to "Knob Resistance" — sort of like how Jefferson Starship later became Starship.

And when there was only one member left he called himself "Knob" ?

[realtrance]

Then changed the spelling to, “Noob”.

Then a spoof band named themselves Artificial Noob Resistance; their first single, “Learn to Play!” caused aliasing all over the Internet. The End.

[McLilith]

I'm pages behind on this thread. What's the consensus? Massive Yes or Massive Turd?

It's a very solid "yes" for me.

(Suddenly, I feel like one of the judges on a TV talent show.)

[zerocrossing]

It's not false. Beta is feature complete but may have bugs. What we have been given is not feature complete therefore it's alpha.

Wrong. Features can always be added during the lifetime of the product. Zebra 2 had a bunch of updates in 10+ years it's been around, for example. In modern times, there's no such thing as "feature complete" really.

If there is a Search icon on the top, and you cannot search, it’s not even beta. That’s so simple.

Not to mention the non-functional envelope graphs.

For someone else:

What is a feature request in expecting that about 30% of the GUI elements, put there by the developer, not for my request, should be more than decoration?

There’s no doubt in my mind that this one left the oven before it was fully baked. Alpha? Beta? Irrelevant for anyone but the internal development team.

If this was from a first time developer, I’d be cautious with my cash. But it’s not. NI has been in this game a long time, and I still see them update plugins that they’ve long stopped developing. If the Massive X executive producer was in front of me right now, I’d give him a very clear finger wag, but I’d also be holding back a smile, because I’ve been part of projects that had to hit the market before they were perfect... or even done. At some point you have to look at your development cost and start getting some income or you’re sunk.

I can’t tell you the story of Massive X. I can imagine the exec who kept throwing ideas into the mix that were possibly great ideas, but pushed development of things like file browser search and animated EG graphics right out the window. I have a saying that usually gets ignored: the great idea you have the day before a milestone won’t be as good as the thing we’ve been polishing for the last month.” Why do I say it? Because I’m an idiot.

I’m sure most of the main concerns will be addressed in the coming months.

[realtrance]

I have a saying, too.

[dionenoid]

I'm pages behind on this thread. What's the consensus? Massive Yes or Massive Turd?

It's a very solid "yes" for me.

(Suddenly, I feel like one of the judges on a TV talent show.)

Another vote for "yes" here.

[McLilith]

is that an edm act?

tonight
artificial knob resistance!


support from
lfos over nyquist.

Yeah. That was the old name. After one of the members left, the name was shortened to "Knob Resistance" — sort of like how Jefferson Starship later became Starship.

And when there was only one member left he called himself "Knob" ?

Yes, exactly.

Of course, the cheeky former partner carried on with a solo career, under the name "The Resistance". It wasn't a real band though. Studio musicians were hired for the albums, and there was no live touring — sort of like how The Alan Parsons Project wasn't really a band and only made albums.

[vurt]

what happened with lfos over nyquist?

[SteveWZ]

Then changed the spelling to, “Noob”.

Then a spoof band named themselves Artificial Noob Resistance; their first single, “Learn to Play!” caused aliasing all over the Internet. The End.

It should have been ... Anfänger.

[vurt]

fingerbang?

[Kian Russell]

I think i will give this Synth one last chance but where is the mod matrix to help keep track of all the modulations?
I can't find it.

[ew]

Like most synths nowadays it seems to be released just a little to soon (what's up with that anyway ?)

I do very little testing and the like for NI these days, but from past experience, I'd guess it was a marketing decision. They'd already delayed the release substantially, and as one of the big draws of the summer sale, they decided they had to release before the sale ended.

It's definitely not unprecedented behavior, though.

ew