Best free 64bit alternative for VOS Thrillseeker LA and DLM SixtyFive (SOLVED!)

[crimsonwarlock]

So, you naively believe that a plugin that contains a compression stage followed by a saturation stage is different from a compression plugin followed by a saturation plugin?

Unless the plugin does indeed model the complex interactions between the stages (most don't), there will be zero difference between these two approaches.

So, you naively believe that all compressors are made equally

Oh wait.....

Bootsy / Variety Of Sound had his own approach of stateful saturation, where the amount of saturation would change depending on the compression variables, which is closer to analog behavior than standard digital static waveshaping saturation.

So you DO believe that there are differences, but only in the case of VOS

But many digital "character compressors" are just a compression stage followed by a more or less static saturation stage, so there would be no difference there, compared to just using a clean digital compressor followed by a saturation plugin.

As that might be the case, you didn't infer from my previous posts that I'm not looking for those "many digital character compressors". Even the thread title contains the names of two compressors with very specific behavior.

Why do YOU think those LA-2A, 1176, DBX, Fairchild, etc. compressors (and their software emulations) are so popular. The character does not only come from the saturation, but largely from the specific components used in each that creates different kinds of compression behavior which is a large part of their character. Emulations, if they are any good, don't just slam on some saturation stage.

[heavymetalmixer]

Not trying to be annoying but TDR SlickEQ does have "dynamic staturation" or "stateful saturation" as the VOS said:

https://varietyofsound.wordpress.com/20 ... d-slickeq/

https://www.learndigitalaudio.com/thril ... -explained


Now, maybe you don't like any of those colors because SlickEQ, like any other TDR plugin, doesn't really emulate hardware.

PD: Klanghelm IVGI 2 also has dynamic saturation, but I don't think it's in the same way.

[SoundPorn]

I mentioned CommBear because it got a distinctively quick and smooth attack similar to the DBX.

Anywho i mention another super underrated free compressor by Initial Audio which can be driven to produce alot of mojo
https://initialaudio.com/free-vice-one- ... r-twitter/

[Halonmusic]

I mentioned CommBear because it got a distinctively quick and smooth attack similar to the DBX.

Anywho i mention another super underrated free compressor by Initial Audio which can be driven to produce alot of mojo
https://initialaudio.com/free-vice-one- ... r-twitter/

Haha commbear is pretty cool. Love the animation of the bear

[joachime]

Commercial stuff is a no go for me. That has nothing to do with money but everything to do with my total hate for copy protection schemes. When my windows machine crashes (when, not if, I was bitten by the october update big time), I just copy back my studio drive backup and I'm up and running again, besides the whole drivers install nightmare which is bad enough to deal with.

So you're looking for DRM free plugins then?

[crimsonwarlock]

Anywho i mention another super underrated free compressor by Initial Audio which can be driven to produce alot of mojo
https://initialaudio.com/free-vice-one- ... r-twitter/

Your link goes to a form where I can post a comment on.... something, without showing where or what that will get me. I searched for info on the compressor and found it has also been bundled with CM in the past, so I probably have that somewhere. Looks like a nice compressor, but I couldn't find what the fastest attack time is. The look-ahead function might compensate for slower attacks though. I have to try it out to see if it gives the desired result. Will report back on that. Anyway, thanks for the suggestion.

It also made me think there might be some other useful compressor in the CM vault, will check for that as well (although many of the CM versions still need some form of activation and are therefore a no go).

So you're looking for DRM free plugins then?

If by that you mean plugins that doesn't need any activation in any form whatsoever, then yes

[crimsonwarlock]

Not trying to be annoying...

You're not, you are giving suggestions so your comments are welcome

Now, maybe you don't like any of those colors because SlickEQ, like any other TDR plugin, doesn't really emulate hardware.

I'm actually not that bend on specific hardware emulations. It's just that this specific combination of compressors give a very specific result (on vocals). So the shortest line between A and B in this case is trying to find compressors that behave close to these two hardware units. With an LA-2A 'just kissing the needle' (as it is described often) being a large part of the result, and ADHD Leveling Tool filling that role pretty well, I feel I'm almost there.

SlickEQ is actually one of the two go-to program EQ's I use, the other one being SonEQ

[heavymetalmixer]

Not trying to be annoying...

You're not, you are giving suggestions so your comments are welcome

Now, maybe you don't like any of those colors because SlickEQ, like any other TDR plugin, doesn't really emulate hardware.

I'm actually not that bend on specific hardware emulations. It's just that this specific combination of compressors give a very specific result (on vocals). So the shortest line between A and B in this case is trying to find compressors that behave close to these two hardware units. With an LA-2A 'just kissing the needle' (as it is described often) being a large part of the result, and ADHD Leveling Tool filling that role pretty well, I feel I'm almost there.

SlickEQ is actually one of the two go-to program EQ's I use, the other one being SonEQ

Mmm, I'm not sure if you already know this so I'm gonna say it: You can use SlickEQ only as a saturation unit, without having to make any EQ moves.

The EQ SAT button does activate satuation for EQ boosts, but if you wanna use only the saturation just choose the OUT STAGE and drive it with CALIBRATE, activating EQ SAT will do nothing for this case of use.

[crimsonwarlock]

Mmm, I'm not sure if you already know this so I'm gonna say it: You can use SlickEQ only as a saturation unit, without having to make any EQ moves.

I said before in this discussion that adding any kind of external saturation is not the issue here because it is about the character of a specific compressor, that is not just the saturation stage. Besides that, I already have saturation in the vocal chain, actually at several stages (as SonEQ, which I have in my vocal chain, also has saturation/drive).

[sleepcircle]

So you're looking for DRM free plugins then?

If by that you mean plugins that doesn't need any activation in any form whatsoever, then yes

i think that when you get to the point where a plugin can be activated as many times as you want and doesn't have any phone-home internet stuff, it shouldn't matter.

i'd just buy Fuse Audio Labs' stuff, if I were you. infinite activations, no phone-home, 64-bit signal path, scrupulously coded circuit simulations with "stateful saturation" built into their mechanism, single individual indie developer by name of Raymund Dratwa.

perhaps this doesn't stick to THE LETTER of your anti-activation principles, but considering that it presents none of the obstacles or philosophical impediments that activation typically presents, I feel as if it at least fits the spirit of it.

EDIT: alternatively you could buy the plugin from his website, thereby paying an indie developer for his meticulous and excellent work, and then download a cracked version of the same plugin somewhere so that the actual drm part never has to manifest on your computer

[ramseysounds]

Why do YOU think those LA-2A, 1176, DBX, Fairchild, etc. compressors (and their software emulations) are so popular. The character does not only come from the saturation, but largely from the specific components used in each that creates different kinds of compression behavior which is a large part of their character. Emulations, if they are any good, don't just slam on some saturation stage.

Just frigging buy one then

[crimsonwarlock]

i think that when you get to the point where a plugin can be activated as many times as you want and doesn't have any phone-home internet stuff, it shouldn't matter.

It does matter. Getting my studio back up and running after a system crash is already a serious task. Mind you, my time available to work in my studio is already very limited (because of professional commitments), so I try to manage my time wisely. So again, for those that didn't bother to follow the discussion, I don't want to deal with activation schemes, no matter how easy or well behaved a scheme might be.

i'd just buy Fuse Audio Labs' stuff, if I were you.

I took a look at his website; I don't see anything there that even somewhat resembles what I'm discussing here. Besides that, I never heard of this dev and have no idea if his stuff is any good. And then there is the activation

Why do YOU think those LA-2A, 1176, DBX, Fairchild, etc. compressors (and their software emulations) are so popular. The character does not only come from the saturation, but largely from the specific components used in each that creates different kinds of compression behavior which is a large part of their character. Emulations, if they are any good, don't just slam on some saturation stage.

Just frigging buy one then

Just frigging read the discussion before posting

[ramseysounds]

Am done with this thread. Bored. So many suggestions but the OP is just too precious. As they say on Dragons Den: I’m out.

[crimsonwarlock]

Am done with this thread. Bored. So many suggestions but the OP is just too precious. As they say on Dragons Den: I’m out.

Me: I'm looking for a free 64bit compressor to replace a specific other free 32bit compressor.

You: buy this, buy that, frigging buy something.



You where a joy to be around.... now don't let the door hit you on the way out

[crimsonwarlock]

Now back to the question still standing.

I see that Acustica's TAN compressor does sub 1ms attack times. Anyone here have experience with this one. Is it any good?