Tone2 I2 vs Trueno Analog

[Teksonik]

SOS Review.....(granted from July 2018 perhaps some issues have been addressed)

"Will Shaw has described these (digital) oscillators as “endearingly lo-fi, with plenty of aliasing”, and he’s not joking. The digital signals (which are coarse to start with) are converted to analogue audio using a lo-fi DAC, and sounds based upon them take me back to an era when things that went beep almost always did so with a halo of noise and lots of spurious high frequency artifacts".

"I had to be careful to keep the signal levels low to avoid distortion. Unfortunately, whether in monophonic or paraphonic mode, I found that the Trueno could generate glitches. I eventually discovered that I could eliminate these by choosing different combinations of buffer sizes and output sample rates, and by leaving the internal effects switched off. This implies that something in the system is running out of time, so there’s still a bit of work to be done here".

"So, where does this leave us? To be honest, I don’t know....It could flop horribly, or it could be the surprise success story of 2018".

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/ws-audio-trueno

I'd say it leans rather towards flop than surprise success story. But I suppose if for whatever reason you want limited old analog sounds this might be right up your alley. I sold all my analog gear and moved forward years ago. Trueno falls squarely under the category of gimmick for me.

So that being said I'm out of here. Enjoy......

[acYm]

from sos review: Manual control over the cutoff frequency is quantised to approximately semitone steps, which is a characteristic of 7-bit MIDI,

that's true? even though the vst has high res cutoff, turning it sounds like Massive?
I think that's a show-stopper if so, and incredibly dumb, you don't use standard midi for anything, ever...

[chk071]

Doesn't surprise me. Concept wise, it's sort of neither fish nor flesh. It doesn't have the advantages of hands on hardware, and it doesn't have the flexibility a VSTi can offer.

In what way does it lack the flexibility of a VSTi? It has every little bit of that flexibility - loads of modulation with drag'n'drop assignment, editable oscillator waveforms, etc. If you think of it as a VSTi with a dongle for copy protection, you'd be right on the money. It could definitely be upgraded with new features via updates to the VSTi.

I can only use one instance. There goes the whole flexibility.

[BONES]

I doubt you could use even that.

[vurt]

[vurt]

not saying i agree or disagree with it, but that is a slam dunk of an insult
game, set and match to bones.

[gentleclockdivider]

LOL , says the guy who's bashing Orion's effects based on nothing at all without even trying. You utter utter two-faced hypocrite.

Again an assumption from your side , you will need to try harder than that

[BONES]

But I suppose if for whatever reason you want limited old analog sounds this might be right up your alley. I sold all my analog gear and moved forward years ago. Trueno falls squarely under the category of gimmick for me.

So you publish a quote about the synth's digital oscillators and then make a completely contradictory comment like this? Seriously?

So that being said I'm out of here. Enjoy......

I would be, too, if I had just made such a complete dick of myself.

[djnro666]

Despite of all the critics, the sound of this synth is incredibly massive and I like the tone of it more than anything I bought in the last 15 years (and I've had a lot). The YouTube videos on it are quite lame and don't give a good idea of it's overall sound caracter. It's a modulation beast too. For me, it's worth the hassle and, once set, it works like a charm. It's not a plugin but runs just like one except for the fact it's monophonic so you can run just one instance of it. That's a big plus for me too.

[zerocrossing]

Frankly, I don’t quite see the point of this instrument, but if it’s for you, it’s for you. To me, a Microfreak is a much more interesting way of adding a bit of analog/digital hybrid fun, and there’s plenty of cheap stuff like Uno to try. Or a used MoPho.

Don’t get me wrong, I think it sounds interesting. I just think that you’ll do better with Reaktor 6 and not have to worry about USB audio.

[Distorted Horizon]

And now my Trueno thread is locked.. Thanks a ton guys. Appreciated.

[perpetual3]

And now my Trueno thread is locked.. Thanks a ton guys. Appreciated.

I feel for you. Such pointless discussion.

For what it’s worth, the developer said the plugins work in Live 10, so I bought a live lite license and will try it there. If that doesn’t work, it’s got to be some kind of weird thing with my system.

[PhilG]

Unfortunately I had to stop using Trueno because after some minutes the tuning of the oscillators drifted.
And even worse, the oscillators are detuned to each other and differently depending on the played key range.
A played C1 could be nearly a semitone too low, C2 was ok and C3 nearly a semitone too high.
Did anyone else make the same experience?

[cytospur]

Unfortunately I had to stop using Trueno because after some minutes the tuning of the oscillators drifted.
And even worse, the oscillators are detuned to each other and differently depending on the played key range.
A played C1 could be nearly a semitone too low, C2 was ok and C3 nearly a semitone too high.
Did anyone else make the same experience?

Not had this so far. Just an ide, but is your Trueno plugged in to a USB port near to the laptop's fan? I would imagine the heat from that could be a cause of mischief.

[ghettosynth]

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