Native Instruments Layoffs?

[CasualHobbyist]

Ok so they are not a plugin maker, probably some random guy out there. Ok then.

i told you, then forgotten added some.
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Ah all right, thanks then.

[buscemi]

While its true that we only have a licence to use the software, it is often possible to transfer the licence for renumeration.

A subscription on the other hand is money for a service and non-refundable.

A bit like paying a mortgage which will result in owning the property one day or paying rent forever and never owning even one brick. Software companies prefer the subscription model because every time an already existing licence is transfered its money that does not go in their till. A potential new customer is lost.

So when you purchase a perpetual software license, you're the one who has to code any updates, fix the bugs, add any features you want, all yourself like the person with a mortgage has to pay for and/or perform repairs and updates to the home as their responsibility? Or is that rent vs mortgage analogy just really not truly applicable to software? I think the latter.

Not that I love the idea of subscriptions, though. I just thought that analogy was a bit faulty at its core. Subscriptions seem like a viable option for people who are making income using the plugins to align their costs with income (at least when the expenditure would be big for a smaller audio company/professional). It also seems to be more popular with those who may not be professionals but who cannot afford the perpetual license outright. Having both options instead of just subscription seems optimal. As much as I hate to say it, outside of the pricing itself Avid seems to have built their perpetual vs subscription model to try to capture these and most other scenarios. Again, though, outside of the price changes which seem to have just pissed everybody off.

On the general topic, it is sad to hear that people are laid off and I hope everybody lands on their feet. Been there, but honestly it was expected almost every time as I was at tech companies during the internet bubble. It was all too common there/then.

[Hink]

All good until you said this:

you never own software , you have the right to use it

Please stop this trending, you see people have a distorted perception of things due to this and even thinking about subscriptions as a more "viable" solution for the future; companies and corporations love this procedures so to make us more and more dependent on them, this need to stop.

You Buy The Product, You Have The Product.

From my previous post:

We already discussed this before, again depending from which companies you're buying a software product, the product you're buying is yours; there is terms and conditions for it, we have to respect it, the same as when you buy a laptop, smartphone, tablet and other countless examples about products with their terms and conditions. You respect the terms, the product is yours, you can't of course do whatever you want with it, but is your possessions.

That's why many companies and developers says in their own websites: Download Your Product.

Exactly, because is yours, you paid for it, like come on... what's wrong with you guys?

I'm starting to think that maybe some of you are relatives to some of those companies or developers that supports subscriptions, so to make it look more "viable" option for the future. Simply because is absurd how exaggerated and unjustified your points are.

Use your mind the right way.

With all respect.

with all respect...you quoted something that starts out "We already discussed this before", I think it's well covered now...please do not derail anymore threads for your agenda...we get it, we got it...lets move on as that would indeed be the respectful thing to do and actions do speak louder than words.

[reggie1979]

Hi! don't have anything to say about this. One question though, Who is this Jared? a plugin maker?

claimed he lost weight with subway meals or some such.

He also went to prison for being a pedo.

[tonymax]

I think they are going Green Shield Stamps!!!!

I unfortunately remember Green Shield stamps, showing my age...

[Forgotten]

Hi! don't have anything to say about this. One question though, Who is this Jared? a plugin maker?

claimed he lost weight with subway meals or some such.

He also went to prison for being a pedo.

Subway obviously wasn’t too keen to have him as their spokesperson after that...

[CasualHobbyist]

Huh, crazy people and liars all over the planet I guess

[AnX]

I think they are going Green Shield Stamps!!!!

Glad someone else is as much of an old fart as me to get that...

we had millions of them around the house.... i think we 'bought' a see-saw that spun round too with GSS in the late 70's. You could never sell something that lethal these days

[Hink]

I think they are going Green Shield Stamps!!!!

I unfortunately remember Green Shield stamps, showing my age...

I dont want this too get hpc, so please this is just a point and not for getting into (unless you want to talk in hpc which is cool)...I knew a guy here in Maine who bought a .22 caliber rifle from S&H Greenstamps...I think maybe my first radio (am, got it when I was 8 and it was a dial clock radio) was from them, both me and my sister got one for xmas...man the music I heard for the first time on the radio...that would have been 1967, the first song I heard on it was For What it's Worth by Buffalo Springfield.

[gentleclockdivider]

Hi! don't have anything to say about this. One question though, Who is this Jared? a plugin maker?

claimed he lost weight with subway meals or some such.

He also went to prison for being a pedo.

The kjaerhus audio guy was/is a convicted pedo too

[Hink]

speaking of not getting too hpc

[fedexnman]

I smell Sales ah coming ....

[yehboy1]

Komplete? More like Inkomplete. Am I right guys?

[CasualHobbyist]

This "kjaerhus" guy too? whoever that was, seems to have had the same fate as the other one. Crazy people out there I swear.

Ontopic. Well, I guess this is not too surprising? All companies will face tough times at some point, nothing new. Hope their ex-employees have managed to find new lands/opportunities.

[Touch The Universe]

Now we know the reason for Massive-X, their first synth in a decade, if its true there not doing well in the market.

The last resort is actually to make synths, how does that work?

Nah, seems to simple. If they drop Massive-X and it doesn't become there flagship synth integrated into a reaktor/kontakt fusion, ie there wasn't a longterm plan of downsizing to begin with, then that pretty much tells the story, despite what they would have us ostensibly believe they are doing well.