Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - 1.8.5 the main thread

[JonSolo]

But my other codemeter products have a work around to help you. For example Reason has the ability to drop the license altogether and get you a new one.

With Windows, a Restore or crash is not completely uncommon. There should be some way to get your license back. This business of "your screwed" if your system crashes is pure crap. Especially since there is no real way to back up your licenses. I would be willing to pay for a service (like I do to iLok) to save my licenses, but so far THIS is the only Codemeter product that I cannot recover.

[sircuit]

No. Propellerheads Reason allows you to delete the container. I imagine Codemeter updates by checking online from time to time. Either way the license is lost now. This REALLY sucks. You are screwed if you have to reset your computer. Here is the error when I try to "rehost":
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Error
The CmContainer with serial xxx-xxxxxxxxxx was not found. Please connect it to your PC or use file-based license transfer.

0x1808810E

CodeMeter License Central WebDepot v19.07.210.500.ws
2019-11-29 15:25:28 (UTC)
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Every other license system has some form of recovery. It is just not available here. Maybe someone from Vengeance can help.

ILok soft license is the same way... Gotta clear your license off the computer before resetting it

That’s true. However a iLok dongle is justified as it is commonly used. Heck, even eLicenser gets used by major players in audio. Codemeter not so much, so buying a dongle is completely not justifiable.

With licensing offered straight by developer things can be resolved. But if they must pay to a 3rd party, we may very well end up with lost license slots. Well see. For the moment I see no reason to update.
But then, I don’t know if 1.4.1 will be ever possible to be activated becausr in the user account is just the new activation method.
Decisions, decisions...

[hivkorn]

what is the problem with the autorisation ? i don't understand, someone can explain me what's new and what's are the problem ?

[SLiC]

I can't 'cos I still can't get to the download!

[GMusic]

I did download the new factory content (actually doing it the 2nd time right now) as well and also re-downloaded all expansions from my account. Again Factory Library and Melodic EDM doesn't work. Other expansions I have do work just fine, like Trance Invasion, EDM 2 and more.

Additionally, some presets in the new guitar expansion are saying I am missing factory content. For instance MU Distorted Rhythm says I'm missing unknown expansion/#WT_PRESET and Factory/Pad Warm Padding

I second that. Just noticed it, too. No bueno.

Thanks for the license update fix. I reactivated my licenses and the presets load without error, HOWEVER, the volume is still way too quiet on some of the presets. For instance, MU Distorted Rhythm from Guitars Vol 1 and PL Kickers from EDM 3.

[teilo]

Ok, I have to bring this up, because I think we need to apply some pressure here.

I'm on board with better copy protection. But the new CodeMeter licenses have a 90 day expiration date, and have to be renewed every 90 days. Even if you are using a hardware key.

Manuel was up front with us about the new copy-protection. He was silent about this expiration date, almost as if he knew it would not go over well.

I'm hoping Manuel sees reason, and reverses his decision on this.

[GMusic]

Ok, I have to bring this up, because I think we need to apply some pressure here.

I'm on board with better copy protection. But the new CodeMeter licenses have a 90 day expiration date, and have to be renewed every 90 days. Even if you are using a hardware key.

Manuel was up front with us about the new copy-protection. He was silent about this expiration date, almost as if he knew it would not go over well.

I'm hoping Manuel sees reason, and reverses his decision on this.

But how many people who are purchasing such expensive software and downloading gigabytes of sounds really cannot connect to the internet at least once in 3 months?

[teilo]

Ok, I have to bring this up, because I think we need to apply some pressure here.

I'm on board with better copy protection. But the new CodeMeter licenses have a 90 day expiration date, and have to be renewed every 90 days. Even if you are using a hardware key.

Manuel was up front with us about the new copy-protection. He was silent about this expiration date, almost as if he knew it would not go over well.

I'm hoping Manuel sees reason, and reverses his decision on this.

But how many people who are purchasing such expensive software and downloading gigabytes of sounds really cannot connect to the internet at least once in 3 months?

Seriously? You are totally missing the point. It's not about the internet.

1) It's not an automatic process. Every 90 days, your software stops working, and you have to update your CodeMeter container or key. That's BS. No one else does this. I have a lot of software on iLok and eLicenser. None of them do this.

2) I bought the software. I have a permanent license to use it. Yet I have to repeatedly ask for permission to do so. It is not subscription software. That I could understand. It's a permanent license.

[rlared]

No. Propellerheads Reason allows you to delete the container. I imagine Codemeter updates by checking online from time to time. Either way the license is lost now. This REALLY sucks. You are screwed if you have to reset your computer. Here is the error when I try to "rehost":
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Error
The CmContainer with serial xxx-xxxxxxxxxx was not found. Please connect it to your PC or use file-based license transfer.

0x1808810E

CodeMeter License Central WebDepot v19.07.210.500.ws
2019-11-29 15:25:28 (UTC)
----------------------------

Every other license system has some form of recovery. It is just not available here. Maybe someone from Vengeance can help.

ILok soft license is the same way... Gotta clear your license off the computer before resetting it

That’s true. However a iLok dongle is justified as it is commonly used. Heck, even eLicenser gets used by major players in audio. Codemeter not so much, so buying a dongle is completely not justifiable.

With licensing offered straight by developer things can be resolved. But if they must pay to a 3rd party, we may very well end up with lost license slots. Well see. For the moment I see no reason to update.
But then, I don’t know if 1.4.1 will be ever possible to be activated becausr in the user account is just the new activation method.
Decisions, decisions...

We are talking about different things. He is not using a dongle. He had the software license on his computer and then he formatted his computer without first removing the software license.

[JonSolo]

Like I said, Codemeter checks. Which is why it should be easy to get my license back. Ha.

And in terms of removing my license before doing a restore, my system would not even BOOT that far. I had to do it from the wonky Windows emergency recovery.

I had no idea where I would even begin to find the licenses for back up.

Of course the Reason license was unaffected because it was there before the Restore point.

[MadDogE134]

what a mess

[GMusic]

I re-downloaded Melodic EDM expansion. The presets load now, but it's WAY TOO QUIET.

This is becoming irritating. Not only did we have to re-download all our expansions and install them again one-by-one, but even the first wave of re-downloads seem to have issues. And the second uploaded "fixed" ones still have volume issues. And the servers are being extremely slow or non-responsive.

Now I have a feeling (if they even bother fixing the volume issue anytime soon) i'll have to re-download all expansions, factory content and reinstall each one by one AGAIN for a 2nd/3rd time, since I don't think it's a Codemeter issue causing the volume issue for the presets.

[Sampleconstruct]

Check if you have an attenuation in the Avenger preferences.

[sacer]

no problems with reloading content so far, but vst3 preset selection in ableton is very very slow

[SLiC]

Ok, I have to bring this up, because I think we need to apply some pressure here.

I'm on board with better copy protection. But the new CodeMeter licenses have a 90 day expiration date, and have to be renewed every 90 days. Even if you are using a hardware key.

Manuel was up front with us about the new copy-protection. He was silent about this expiration date, almost as if he knew it would not go over well.

I'm hoping Manuel sees reason, and reverses his decision on this.

I will have a copy of Avenger for sale if this is the case.