Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

[Fleer]

Thanks, LoveEnigma18 (& cprompt).
Me too, I recommend AR Chambers, but I’m more into acoustic than you, I guess.

[profaudio]

...I bought the Abbey Road Collection just two days before the Saturator release and I must pay an upgrade if I want to have it

The AR collection price was raised after the Saturator/MDMX release.
However the upgrade price is about ½ of the full raise.

No it wasn't. It was $164 just before the new plugin release - and it was $164 after inc. the new plugin. Also their "X number of units left at this price" is a complete LIE.

Their management & marketing is an absolute nightmare imho. It's bullsh*t like this, that makes me completely question wtf is going wrong at Waves.

Well it's straight up FRAUD to be honest.

"18 units available at this price", all units sold, add another 30 at the same price, all sold add another 100, add another 130, etc.

COMPLETE [***INTENTIONAL***] LIE IN ORDER TO GET PEOPLE TO BUY IT QUICKLY.

A fraud is an intentionally false representation made with the intent to mislead the listener, and that the listener relied on "to her detriment."

Then in the end it has cost me [personally, and I'm sure many others] the chance to wait until the end of the sales (which I usually do) for more time to consider my purchase, which resulted in the loss of their new plugin which was added to the same bundle for the same price.

3 days no response...

[telecode]

anybody used the waves abbey road vinyl ? hows does it compare to izotope vinyl?

[cprompt]

anybody used the waves abbey road vinyl ? hows does it compare to izotope vinyl?

If I'm truly honest, the word I would use to describe it is "meh". It's interesting but it's another of my plugins gathering dust. If you want vinyl, you can't go wrong with the Izotope one.

[LoveEnigma18]

Any suggestions from the below:

CLA-76
CLA-2A
CLA-3A
L2 Ultramaximizer
L3 Multimaximizer
Aphex Vintage Aural Exciter
Abbey Road Chambers
NLS Non-Linear Summer

Of that list, Chambers is probably the best one. The compressors are just more compressors floating in a sea of compressors. Aphex is a one trick pony (and the high end that Saturator gives is much nicer than Aphex) and NLS, well I've had that for a couple of years and now it just gathers dust. I never found it did much for me.

Thanks, LoveEnigma18 (& cprompt).
Me too, I recommend AR Chambers, but I’m more into acoustic than you, I guess.

Thanks, cprompt and Fleer.

AR Chambers indeed sounds nice, but it seems a bit difficult to dial in and has quite a significant CPU hit, even on my Intel Core i7-7700, 4 GHz CPU, which is why I was thinking about Plates. Aphex Aural Exciter is something I had considered, but perhaps will pass it. AR plugins rarely go at $29, so should choose one of them. H-Reverb also sounds great, but I think my Valhalla and NI reverbs will cover that ground.

[telecode]

anybody used the waves abbey road vinyl ? hows does it compare to izotope vinyl?

If I'm truly honest, the word I would use to describe it is "meh". It's interesting but it's another of my plugins gathering dust. If you want vinyl, you can't go wrong with the Izotope one.

thanx!

[telecode]

I can recommend getting the Abbey Road Collection. ...I believe that upgrading bundles always gets you whatever has been added since your last upgrade, too.

I don't think that this is the case with the Abbey Road plugins:
"* The Abbey Road Collection is excluded from new plugins being added for free with a current Waves Update Plan."
It is from the "Waves Update Plan" description page:
https://www.waves.com/support/waves-upd ... 1-EALw_wcB

Can confirm. I bought the Abbey Road Collection just two days before the Saturator release and I must pay an upgrade if I want to have it

Just wondering, whats so great about that Saturator? Waves have it on sale and bundled with a bunch of MDMX effects.

[LoveEnigma18]

I can recommend getting the Abbey Road Collection. ...I believe that upgrading bundles always gets you whatever has been added since your last upgrade, too.

I don't think that this is the case with the Abbey Road plugins:
"* The Abbey Road Collection is excluded from new plugins being added for free with a current Waves Update Plan."
It is from the "Waves Update Plan" description page:
https://www.waves.com/support/waves-upd ... 1-EALw_wcB

Can confirm. I bought the Abbey Road Collection just two days before the Saturator release and I must pay an upgrade if I want to have it

Just wondering, whats so great about that Saturator? Waves have it on sale and bundled with a bunch of MDMX effects.

Can't comment much on Saturator right now, but I would say it's a deal not to be missed if you are into Waves. You are essentially getting 5 plugins (4 + 1 free) for a bargain. They sound quite good from what I heard and the GUI is pretty good too.

[profaudio]

I can recommend getting the Abbey Road Collection. ...I believe that upgrading bundles always gets you whatever has been added since your last upgrade, too.

I don't think that this is the case with the Abbey Road plugins:
"* The Abbey Road Collection is excluded from new plugins being added for free with a current Waves Update Plan."
It is from the "Waves Update Plan" description page:
https://www.waves.com/support/waves-upd ... 1-EALw_wcB

Can confirm. I bought the Abbey Road Collection just two days before the Saturator release and I must pay an upgrade if I want to have it

Just wondering, whats so great about that Saturator? Waves have it on sale and bundled with a bunch of MDMX effects.

Can't comment much on Saturator right now, but I would say it's a deal not to be missed if you are into Waves. You are essentially getting 5 plugins (4 + 1 free) for a bargain. They sound quite good from what I heard and the GUI is pretty good too.

Right, especially if you like companies that mislead their customers on purpose with false advertising tactics?



https://i.imgur.com/7Y0LTq8.png

"8 UNITS AVAILABLE AT THIS PRICE"

[agharta]

I can recommend getting the Abbey Road Collection. ...I believe that upgrading bundles always gets you whatever has been added since your last upgrade, too.

I don't think that this is the case with the Abbey Road plugins:
"* The Abbey Road Collection is excluded from new plugins being added for free with a current Waves Update Plan."
It is from the "Waves Update Plan" description page:
https://www.waves.com/support/waves-upd ... 1-EALw_wcB

Can confirm. I bought the Abbey Road Collection just two days before the Saturator release and I must pay an upgrade if I want to have it

Just wondering, whats so great about that Saturator? Waves have it on sale and bundled with a bunch of MDMX effects.

Can't comment much on Saturator right now, but I would say it's a deal not to be missed if you are into Waves. You are essentially getting 5 plugins (4 + 1 free) for a bargain. They sound quite good from what I heard and the GUI is pretty good too.

Right, especially if you like companies that mislead their customers on purpose with false advertising tactics?



https://i.imgur.com/7Y0LTq8.png

"8 UNITS AVAILABLE AT THIS PRICE"

Sounds as if you are using an echoplex plugin on your QWERTY keyboard as the same thing keeps getting repeated!

[profaudio]

I don't think that this is the case with the Abbey Road plugins:
"* The Abbey Road Collection is excluded from new plugins being added for free with a current Waves Update Plan."
It is from the "Waves Update Plan" description page:
https://www.waves.com/support/waves-upd ... 1-EALw_wcB

Can confirm. I bought the Abbey Road Collection just two days before the Saturator release and I must pay an upgrade if I want to have it

Just wondering, whats so great about that Saturator? Waves have it on sale and bundled with a bunch of MDMX effects.

Can't comment much on Saturator right now, but I would say it's a deal not to be missed if you are into Waves. You are essentially getting 5 plugins (4 + 1 free) for a bargain. They sound quite good from what I heard and the GUI is pretty good too.

Right, especially if you like companies that mislead their customers on purpose with false advertising tactics?



https://i.imgur.com/7Y0LTq8.png

"8 UNITS AVAILABLE AT THIS PRICE"

Sounds as if you are using an echoplex plugin on your QWERTY keyboard as the same thing keeps getting repeated!

Yes, it's fun to be ignorant and undermining towards people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_undermining

Someone commented that they couldn't see my 1. IMG post
2. is a link to the IMG (just in case - and therefore people cannot see the image until they click the link)
3. Is the text for the link

Not to mention: repeating something 3 times "makes it stick" https://www.readingrockets.org/article/ ... e-learning

Which clearly people need, since either they have no moral compass and are happy at false adveritising practices, or they are being ignorant (and like you undermining)

Thanks!

[profaudio]

And I can tell you this is much more than the $24 'loss' of a saturator plugin. I am disgusted with Waves' actions - and therefore ALL of my Waves plugins are currently a waste of money as I will refuse to use them or sell them to anyone else. Their non-responsiveness is making the issue WORSE. I will ask for a complete refund of every penny of every purchase.

[WatchTheGuitar]

Gforce just sent this out to subscribers...

For the first time we're offering you the opportunity to purchase our synthesizers, impOSCar2®, Oddity2® and Minimonsta® at the truly impulse price of £33.33 each.

This unique offer runs until 25th December, 2019.

https://www.gforcesoftware.com/gshop/products

[agharta]

And I can tell you this is much more than the $24 'loss' of a saturator plugin. I am disgusted with Waves' actions - and therefore ALL of my Waves plugins are currently a waste of money as I will refuse to use them or sell them to anyone else. Their non-responsiveness is making the issue WORSE. I will ask for a complete refund of every penny of every purchase.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... f_the_pram

[gunark]

ExVAT though - so add another 20%.

Is ImpOSCar still stand up? Oddity still sounds good and ImpOSCar was a favourite when released years ago but that was now some 15 years.

Gforce just sent this out to subscribers...

For the first time we're offering you the opportunity to purchase our synthesizers, impOSCar2®, Oddity2® and Minimonsta® at the truly impulse price of £33.33 each.

This unique offer runs until 25th December, 2019.

https://www.gforcesoftware.com/gshop/products