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LoveEnigma18
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1710 posts since 12 Jan, 2018

Post Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:57 pm

Fleer wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:37 am
LoveEnigma18 wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:20 am
Just a heads-up: I got the email from Waves to choose the $29.99 free plugin.
Cheers. Me too.
I’m hesitant between:
Brauer Motion
PuigChild
Aphex Exciter
(already have all things Abbey Road)
:tu: If you have the Soundtoys 5 bundle, which has PanMan, you could skip Brauer Motion I guess. They look comparable on first look.

PuigChild might be a better choice considering you already have AR Saturator that can deliver some excitement. ;)

I am still uncertain between AR Chambers and Plates. On demoing them, I realized that Plates looks a bit simpler to use and also has much less CPU hit. Also, my music does not really fit acoustic genre, so Chambers might not be much suitable. :?

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LoveEnigma18
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1710 posts since 12 Jan, 2018

Re: Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

Post Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:09 pm

Uncle E wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:02 pm
89% off Soundtoys Little Radiator tube preamp saturator, now $9 instead of $79:
https://www.jrrshop.com/soundtoys-little-radiator
Insane deal! :o

cprompt
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923 posts since 17 Nov, 2010 from UK

Re: Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

Post Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:39 am

LoveEnigma18 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:31 am
Any suggestions from the below:

CLA-76
CLA-2A
CLA-3A
L2 Ultramaximizer
L3 Multimaximizer
Aphex Vintage Aural Exciter
Abbey Road Chambers
NLS Non-Linear Summer
Of that list, Chambers is probably the best one. The compressors are just more compressors floating in a sea of compressors. Aphex is a one trick pony (and the high end that Saturator gives is much nicer than Aphex) and NLS, well I've had that for a couple of years and now it just gathers dust. I never found it did much for me.
A bit fried in the higher freqs

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Fleer
KVRAF
4738 posts since 23 Aug, 2014 from Boston/Cambridge

Re: Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

Post Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:16 am

Thanks, LoveEnigma18 (& cprompt).
Me too, I recommend AR Chambers, but I’m more into acoustic than you, I guess.

profaudio
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49 posts since 20 Mar, 2015

Re: Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

Post Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:32 am

krabbencutter wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:06 pm
profaudio wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:28 pm
everyPlugin.com wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:28 am
VincentVega wrote: ...I bought the Abbey Road Collection just two days before the Saturator release and I must pay an upgrade if I want to have it
The AR collection price was raised after the Saturator/MDMX release.
However the upgrade price is about ½ of the full raise.
No it wasn't. It was $164 just before the new plugin release - and it was $164 after inc. the new plugin. Also their "X number of units left at this price" is a complete LIE.
Their management & marketing is an absolute nightmare imho. It's bullsh*t like this, that makes me completely question wtf is going wrong at Waves.
Well it's straight up FRAUD to be honest.

"18 units available at this price", all units sold, add another 30 at the same price, all sold add another 100, add another 130, etc.

COMPLETE [***INTENTIONAL***] LIE IN ORDER TO GET PEOPLE TO BUY IT QUICKLY.
A fraud is an intentionally false representation made with the intent to mislead the listener, and that the listener relied on "to her detriment."
Then in the end it has cost me [personally, and I'm sure many others] the chance to wait until the end of the sales (which I usually do) for more time to consider my purchase, which resulted in the loss of their new plugin which was added to the same bundle for the same price.

3 days no response...

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telecode
KVRAF
1582 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada

Re: Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

Post Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:57 am

anybody used the waves abbey road vinyl ? hows does it compare to izotope vinyl?

cprompt
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923 posts since 17 Nov, 2010 from UK

Re: Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

Post Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:03 am

telecode wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:57 am
anybody used the waves abbey road vinyl ? hows does it compare to izotope vinyl?
If I'm truly honest, the word I would use to describe it is "meh". It's interesting but it's another of my plugins gathering dust. If you want vinyl, you can't go wrong with the Izotope one.
A bit fried in the higher freqs

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LoveEnigma18
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1710 posts since 12 Jan, 2018

Re: Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

Post Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:50 am

cprompt wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:39 am
LoveEnigma18 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:31 am
Any suggestions from the below:

CLA-76
CLA-2A
CLA-3A
L2 Ultramaximizer
L3 Multimaximizer
Aphex Vintage Aural Exciter
Abbey Road Chambers
NLS Non-Linear Summer
Of that list, Chambers is probably the best one. The compressors are just more compressors floating in a sea of compressors. Aphex is a one trick pony (and the high end that Saturator gives is much nicer than Aphex) and NLS, well I've had that for a couple of years and now it just gathers dust. I never found it did much for me.
Fleer wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:16 am
Thanks, LoveEnigma18 (& cprompt).
Me too, I recommend AR Chambers, but I’m more into acoustic than you, I guess.
Thanks, cprompt and Fleer. :tu:

AR Chambers indeed sounds nice, but it seems a bit difficult to dial in and has quite a significant CPU hit, even on my Intel Core i7-7700, 4 GHz CPU, which is why I was thinking about Plates. Aphex Aural Exciter is something I had considered, but perhaps will pass it. AR plugins rarely go at $29, so should choose one of them. H-Reverb also sounds great, but I think my Valhalla and NI reverbs will cover that ground.

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telecode
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1582 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada

Re: Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

Post Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:04 am

cprompt wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:03 am
telecode wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:57 am
anybody used the waves abbey road vinyl ? hows does it compare to izotope vinyl?
If I'm truly honest, the word I would use to describe it is "meh". It's interesting but it's another of my plugins gathering dust. If you want vinyl, you can't go wrong with the Izotope one.
thanx!

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telecode
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1582 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada

Re: Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

Post Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:07 am

VincentVega wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:15 am
ozonepaul wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:26 am
Uncle E wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:35 pm
I can recommend getting the Abbey Road Collection. ...I believe that upgrading bundles always gets you whatever has been added since your last upgrade, too.
I don't think that this is the case with the Abbey Road plugins:
"* The Abbey Road Collection is excluded from new plugins being added for free with a current Waves Update Plan."
It is from the "Waves Update Plan" description page:
https://www.waves.com/support/waves-upd ... 1-EALw_wcB
Can confirm. I bought the Abbey Road Collection just two days before the Saturator release and I must pay an upgrade if I want to have it
Just wondering, whats so great about that Saturator? Waves have it on sale and bundled with a bunch of MDMX effects.

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LoveEnigma18
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1710 posts since 12 Jan, 2018

Re: Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

Post Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:14 am

telecode wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:07 am
VincentVega wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:15 am
ozonepaul wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:26 am
Uncle E wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:35 pm
I can recommend getting the Abbey Road Collection. ...I believe that upgrading bundles always gets you whatever has been added since your last upgrade, too.
I don't think that this is the case with the Abbey Road plugins:
"* The Abbey Road Collection is excluded from new plugins being added for free with a current Waves Update Plan."
It is from the "Waves Update Plan" description page:
https://www.waves.com/support/waves-upd ... 1-EALw_wcB
Can confirm. I bought the Abbey Road Collection just two days before the Saturator release and I must pay an upgrade if I want to have it
Just wondering, whats so great about that Saturator? Waves have it on sale and bundled with a bunch of MDMX effects.
Can't comment much on Saturator right now, but I would say it's a deal not to be missed if you are into Waves. You are essentially getting 5 plugins (4 + 1 free) for a bargain. They sound quite good from what I heard and the GUI is pretty good too.

profaudio
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49 posts since 20 Mar, 2015

Re: Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

Post Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:28 am

LoveEnigma18 wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:14 am
telecode wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:07 am
VincentVega wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:15 am
ozonepaul wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:26 am
Uncle E wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:35 pm
I can recommend getting the Abbey Road Collection. ...I believe that upgrading bundles always gets you whatever has been added since your last upgrade, too.
I don't think that this is the case with the Abbey Road plugins:
"* The Abbey Road Collection is excluded from new plugins being added for free with a current Waves Update Plan."
It is from the "Waves Update Plan" description page:
https://www.waves.com/support/waves-upd ... 1-EALw_wcB
Can confirm. I bought the Abbey Road Collection just two days before the Saturator release and I must pay an upgrade if I want to have it
Just wondering, whats so great about that Saturator? Waves have it on sale and bundled with a bunch of MDMX effects.
Can't comment much on Saturator right now, but I would say it's a deal not to be missed if you are into Waves. You are essentially getting 5 plugins (4 + 1 free) for a bargain. They sound quite good from what I heard and the GUI is pretty good too.
Right, especially if you like companies that mislead their customers on purpose with false advertising tactics?

Image

https://i.imgur.com/7Y0LTq8.png

"8 UNITS AVAILABLE AT THIS PRICE"

agharta
KVRian
520 posts since 10 Jan, 2018

Re: Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

Post Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:44 am

profaudio wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:28 am
LoveEnigma18 wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:14 am
telecode wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:07 am
VincentVega wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:15 am
ozonepaul wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:26 am
Uncle E wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:35 pm
I can recommend getting the Abbey Road Collection. ...I believe that upgrading bundles always gets you whatever has been added since your last upgrade, too.
I don't think that this is the case with the Abbey Road plugins:
"* The Abbey Road Collection is excluded from new plugins being added for free with a current Waves Update Plan."
It is from the "Waves Update Plan" description page:
https://www.waves.com/support/waves-upd ... 1-EALw_wcB
Can confirm. I bought the Abbey Road Collection just two days before the Saturator release and I must pay an upgrade if I want to have it
Just wondering, whats so great about that Saturator? Waves have it on sale and bundled with a bunch of MDMX effects.
Can't comment much on Saturator right now, but I would say it's a deal not to be missed if you are into Waves. You are essentially getting 5 plugins (4 + 1 free) for a bargain. They sound quite good from what I heard and the GUI is pretty good too.
Right, especially if you like companies that mislead their customers on purpose with false advertising tactics?

Image

https://i.imgur.com/7Y0LTq8.png

"8 UNITS AVAILABLE AT THIS PRICE"
Sounds as if you are using an echoplex plugin on your QWERTY keyboard as the same thing keeps getting repeated! :D

profaudio
KVRist
49 posts since 20 Mar, 2015

Re: Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

Post Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:17 am

agharta wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:44 am
profaudio wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:28 am
LoveEnigma18 wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:14 am
telecode wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:07 am
VincentVega wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:15 am
ozonepaul wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:26 am

I don't think that this is the case with the Abbey Road plugins:
"* The Abbey Road Collection is excluded from new plugins being added for free with a current Waves Update Plan."
It is from the "Waves Update Plan" description page:
https://www.waves.com/support/waves-upd ... 1-EALw_wcB
Can confirm. I bought the Abbey Road Collection just two days before the Saturator release and I must pay an upgrade if I want to have it
Just wondering, whats so great about that Saturator? Waves have it on sale and bundled with a bunch of MDMX effects.
Can't comment much on Saturator right now, but I would say it's a deal not to be missed if you are into Waves. You are essentially getting 5 plugins (4 + 1 free) for a bargain. They sound quite good from what I heard and the GUI is pretty good too.
Right, especially if you like companies that mislead their customers on purpose with false advertising tactics?

Image

https://i.imgur.com/7Y0LTq8.png

"8 UNITS AVAILABLE AT THIS PRICE"
Sounds as if you are using an echoplex plugin on your QWERTY keyboard as the same thing keeps getting repeated! :D
Yes, it's fun to be ignorant and undermining towards people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_undermining

Someone commented that they couldn't see my 1. IMG post
2. is a link to the IMG (just in case - and therefore people cannot see the image until they click the link)
3. Is the text for the link

Not to mention: repeating something 3 times "makes it stick" https://www.readingrockets.org/article/ ... e-learning

Which clearly people need, since either they have no moral compass and are happy at false adveritising practices, or they are being ignorant (and like you undermining)

Thanks!

profaudio
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49 posts since 20 Mar, 2015

Re: Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

Post Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:20 am

And I can tell you this is much more than the $24 'loss' of a saturator plugin. I am disgusted with Waves' actions - and therefore ALL of my Waves plugins are currently a waste of money as I will refuse to use them or sell them to anyone else. Their non-responsiveness is making the issue WORSE. I will ask for a complete refund of every penny of every purchase.

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