Dmitry Sches' Thorn VI
- KVRian
- 1094 posts since 13 Mar, 2008 from Arnhem, Netherlands
Ah, I think the issue is that my voucher is for $50 with a minimum spend of $75.
That actually makes such a purchase more expensive for me because I have a higher value voucher :0
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- KVRAF
- 3505 posts since 27 Dec, 2002 from North East England
Oscillator oversampling is, at last, working. In most synths this wouldn’t be a huge deal, but Thorn massively benefits here. The high end isn’t noticeably improved, but timbral stability with respect to pitch is much better, the ‘dirty’ filter is nicer, and things sound much cleaner overall.sqigls wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:08 am i own the PA version also, but haven't installed it, i see absolutely no reason to upgrade.
what is the advantage?
- KVRAF
- 3644 posts since 21 Nov, 2015
Whats interesting about this, is that not every PA customer received the Thorn $39,99 Offer; so without a rant... Maybe Dirk is much smarter than we think he is. The house always Wins, as they say.evilantal wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:45 pmAh, I think the issue is that my voucher is for $50 with a minimum spend of $75.
That actually makes such a purchase more expensive for me because I have a higher value voucher :0
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- KVRAF
- 17958 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
Thanks! Although, to be clear, I only bought into Thorn once it had become part of PA.nevis wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:57 pmAs I wrote in "the other Thorn thread":el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:06 amIs that true?AdvancedFollower wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:03 am Yeah I think unfortunately if you didn't jump on the $19 crossgrade offer back in February of last year, you have to re-buy the whole thing from PA...
nevis wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:34 amMy old "upgrade to 1.2 now until March 2019 for $19" code I got from PA still worked yesterday. I was waiting for the Thorn improvements to materialise before getting it.Tj Shredder wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2019 5:57 amI missed it too, but only for the reason that I do have the 1.0 version and don’t need an update yet and did not find anything in the PA catalog which I would actually use...
Sounds like you should also have one of those codes as an owner of 1.0. Maybe worth a try to find your old code?
My question was more an exclamation of disbelief that both companies involved would behave in such a manner. Their upgrade policy does, however, have implications for me regarding Tantra, which I assume will share the same fate as soon as V2 hits. So it' good to know they are playing fair
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- KVRist
- 131 posts since 23 Mar, 2019
Yeah really but I think its genre related.BONES wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:37 pm
Really? I've never taken much notice but it doesn't seem like a CPU hog to me. I used to run it on a 4th Gen Core i5 and even then I didn't notice it using too much CPU.
I note that your chosen genre doesn't make use of huge dense chords whereas mine does.
Thorn doesn't play well when things start to stack and things quickly get out of hand to the point where freezing isn't just an option its essential.
I had the same issue with Diversion.
i7 user here.
- GRRRRRRR!
- 17710 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
It's not about what style of music anyone plays, it's about how it compares to other instruments. I was just doing some quick tests and Thorn doesn't use appreciably more CPU than any of the others I tested - DUNE, ArcSyn, Pigments, Union, Hive, Repro 5, Synthmaster One, and Vacuum Pro - on a patch with 8 voice unison (or equivalent), playing the same 4 note chord. To make it fair I reduced the release on all the patches I used to a similar value. Even without unison, Repro 5 was far and away the biggest CPU hog (it couldn't play the chord with unison on) but the others all oscillated within the 15%-25% range on my Core i7. i.e. 25% when there was note overlap, 15% when there wasn't. Thorn was definitely at the higher end of the scale but not so far from the average that you'd notice in a project.
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- KVRAF
- 3204 posts since 17 Apr, 2010 from Slovenia
I did a track for the OSC back then, which used 21 instances of it, all in real time and on my poor machine for music with just built-in realtek soundcard and the old dual 6 core Xeons not overclocked...
https://soundcloud.com/taronium/taron-violovac
I had to be careful and by the end it began to be somewhat scratchy to work with, but there have been many, many other synths that couldn't dream of doing what Thorn did!

https://soundcloud.com/taronium/taron-violovac
I had to be careful and by the end it began to be somewhat scratchy to work with, but there have been many, many other synths that couldn't dream of doing what Thorn did!
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- KVRist
- 290 posts since 29 Nov, 2018
Dmitry is great, nice guy and good support.Gamma-UT wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:17 pm Dmitry has said in the past that if the PA-emailed code doesn't work for existing users, he will send a replacement.
Support from PA is well,.......very very slow.
- KVRAF
- 6295 posts since 12 Jan, 2018
Just because you mentioned, I realized I have Thorn CM too. But the terms of use say CM plugins can't be used for commercial purposes. Is it really the case?Vortifex wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:43 am Bought it to replace my CM version. Couldn't really say no at that price.
EDIT: Found this info and I am happy.
https://www.musicradar.com/computermusi ... ins-571802Can I use CM Plugins to make commercial music or is that against the rules of the license?
You can use CM plugins to make commercial music - in fact, we'd love to know about it if you do!
- KVRAF
- 3598 posts since 8 Dec, 2008 from Global Cowboy
You should have bought the full version of Thorn !
It's one of the best synths on the planet
It's one of the best synths on the planet
No auto tune...
