Sylenth vs Serum?? please read

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revvy
KVRian
1001 posts since 15 Feb, 2020

Post Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:06 pm

Or maybe 20 other combos.

Choose one, learn it, win!
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kavin2134
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46 posts since 27 Mar, 2020

Re: Sylenth vs Serum?? please read

Post Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:12 pm

Passing Bye wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:42 pm
mschenkel wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:36 pm
Passing Bye wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:25 pm
OP never implied he needs one stop solution or that he is into complex sound design, he is into music that was made with Sylenth for entire decade, before Serum existed and before wavatables, mseg's and etc were big of a deal.

He/she actually did...rofl
Where exactly?
kavin2134 wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:05 am
i know people hate this question, between synths. but this is not one of those, i think. So i make progressive house and trance. For these genres , i wanted to buy my first vst synth. i came down to these two as i had to take the rent2own route. I am actually kinda fixed to sylenth for the ease and the quality of sound that it can produce and is perfect for this genre i believe. but serum ,many people have told is versatile for the more modern genres if i move to them, which fairly i do not want to. People argue that serum can make everything that sylenth can make. So help me guys. Is serum really good for my genres and give me that warm classic sound that im looking for (in addition to being able to make more modern things) or am i better off with going with sylenth as a first synth which is also cheaper.
He's buying his first synth, never mentions it's his last one and never mentions complex sound design, but clearly states his genre and sound preference, which both goes in Sylenth's favor.
Kinda pretty much sums it up . After looking at ANA2 from the suggestions, now im kinda confused. what should i do ? sylenth or ana2+synthmaster1. i also found sylenth on the buy/sell for around 60 euros,So i realy dont know what to do. the ANA2+SM1 is just a little bit more pricey

kavin2134
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46 posts since 27 Mar, 2020

Re: Sylenth vs Serum?? please read

Post Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:13 pm

revvy wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:06 pm
Or maybe 20 other combos.

Choose one, learn it, win!
I think youre right and thats what i need to do

vitocorleone123
KVRian
535 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW

Re: Sylenth vs Serum?? please read

Post Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:19 pm

If there's more than 2 options... while it's not my overall favorite, it's hard to beat ANA2 for ~$55 right now. If you want to "tone it down", I'd also look at the Kush Audio Omega TWK (or one of the others) to add some top quality saturation/distortion for relatively cheap, so it can sound cutting modern without, a little more analog with. I don't know that I'd get Synthmaster in addition - one or the other until you learn what you want, and if you want to double-down in that direction or to get something very different. I'd also get Valhalla Delay.

But, yes, pick one and learn it before adding another synth.

ANA2 $56
Valhalla Delay $50 and/of Valhalla Vintage Verb $50
Kush TWK $29

Just some ideas.

izonin
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1277 posts since 27 Oct, 2009

Re: Sylenth vs Serum?? please read

Post Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:34 am

kavin2134 wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:05 am
So i make progressive house and trance. For these genres , i wanted to buy my first vst synth.
kavin2134 wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:01 pm
Also trance is just very rare for me. so i dont think i need virus/ its emulations as much.
Can you name a few artists you like? Maybe it will be easier to find out what hardware/software they're using on your favorite albums.

For example, if someone asks how to get that Vangelis sound ITB, people will point him/her at existing CS-80 and 224XL emulations.
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Igro
KVRAF
4226 posts since 26 Apr, 2007 from Noosphere

Re: Sylenth vs Serum?? please read

Post Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:11 am

Sylenth sounds way better. Serum filters are so weak, that you cannot even compare them.

Examigan
KVRAF
5239 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

Re: Sylenth vs Serum?? please read

Post Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:27 am

I do not have Serum, but I do have many of the others listed here. Maybe it's just me, but Sylenth1 has something slightly different in its sound I just can't get from other synths. After it was released a few other plugins came out that seemed to be similar but with a few more features added. On the other hand, I still like all of them or I wouldn't keep 'em installed on the PC. :)

chk071
KVRAF
24076 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: Sylenth vs Serum?? please read

Post Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:44 am

Sylenth1 still has one of the best supersaws out there. There are some synths which sound a bit heavier and beefier though. Sylenth1 lacks a bit in the lower registers (especially compared to something like Spire. Compared to that, Sylenth1 is more or less useless for bass sound, if you don't dial in EQ, or layer a sine below). Not the most pristine, crystal clear synth either. What sounds very good is the filter drive though. Haven't heard that in many other synths.
Plugins and a DAW. On a operating system. Which runs on a computer.

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HTT
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93 posts since 14 Jul, 2019

Re: Sylenth vs Serum?? please read

Post Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:02 am

Synthmaster 1 and 2 for $69.

https://www.kv331audio.com/bundles.aspx

Check out the soundcloud examples for your genres. Try a demo.

Examigan
KVRAF
5239 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

Re: Sylenth vs Serum?? please read

Post Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:21 am

A topic started from a couple years ago about Sylenth1:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=509757

kavin2134
KVRist
46 posts since 27 Mar, 2020

Re: Sylenth vs Serum?? please read

Post Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:36 am

izonin wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:34 am
kavin2134 wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:05 am
So i make progressive house and trance. For these genres , i wanted to buy my first vst synth.
kavin2134 wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:01 pm
Also trance is just very rare for me. so i dont think i need virus/ its emulations as much.
Can you name a few artists you like? Maybe it will be easier to find out what hardware/software they're using on your favorite albums.

For example, if someone asks how to get that Vangelis sound ITB, people will point him/her at existing CS-80 and 224XL emulations.
I kinda guessed that this would come up. So if you're asking what kinda artists' sounds I am trying to replicate, it is Alesso, SHM and post 2013 Armin van Buuren

Trancit
KVRAF
2741 posts since 27 Jul, 2004

Re: Sylenth vs Serum?? please read

Post Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:18 am

kavin2134 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:36 am
I kinda guessed that this would come up. So if you're asking what kinda artists' sounds I am trying to replicate, it is Alesso, SHM and post 2013 Armin van Buuren
Basically you can do that with nearly any softsynth out there...

The trick is the nike slogan: just do it...
And if you roll the dice if you cannot decide but don´t hesitate any longer because you cannot go wrong with either ... everything else is learning how to use it properly...

As always genius is 1 % inspiration and 99% transpiration... take the 1% as which one you pick up and the 99% the skills you want to achieve... even a simple synth like Sylenth will keep you busy for years if you want to be able to use it to it´s max...

claudedefaren
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369 posts since 10 Mar, 2013

Re: Sylenth vs Serum?? please read

Post Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:16 am

If you're considering ANA 2 now, I should say that in terms of sound quality,

Sylenth & Hive > ANA 2 > Serum > Synthmaster

Although, and no offense, but if you're making a thread like this you're probably new to music production and won't be able to tell the differences between the quality of ANA and Sylenth.

ANA is a much more feature-rich synth and has excellent wavetables and handles unison very nicely. To me its weak point is the filters + envelope algos. I think there's too much nonlinearity, personally. Some of the filters do sound very nice.

However, for $60, and someone starting out, I think ANA is the choice I'd suggest. You won't need any others to get the sound you're after. Save the synthmaster money and get Valhalla vintage verb.
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Mushy Mushy
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14817 posts since 7 Sep, 2008

Re: Sylenth vs Serum?? please read

Post Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:25 am

claudedefaren wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:16 am
If you're considering ANA 2 now, I should say that in terms of sound quality,

Sylenth & Hive > ANA 2 > Serum > Synthmaster
I don’t often facepalm but when I do...
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"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

claudedefaren
KVRist
369 posts since 10 Mar, 2013

Re: Sylenth vs Serum?? please read

Post Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:32 am

Mushy Mushy wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:25 am
claudedefaren wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:16 am
If you're considering ANA 2 now, I should say that in terms of sound quality,

Sylenth & Hive > ANA 2 > Serum > Synthmaster
I don’t often facepalm but when I do...
Oh, hey there. I see you posting a lot.

I noticed you posted on the first page of this thread that you love Serum.

I hope you'll notice that I did not choose to berate you for having a differing opinion than I do. I expect you should not to do the same to me. Please be respectful in discourse, or I'll have to add you as a foe like I did the other guy in this thread.

By the way, you seem to be very concerned about COVID based on your post history. I hope this helps you feel more at peace about it: I currently have COVID, and I am perfectly fine. I'm on day 8 of it. For most people, and hopefully yourself, it won't be that bad. Rest easy.

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