Zebra 3 feature suggestions

[digitalboytn]

Urs...how about a custom u-he wrapper for stand alone applications ?

We're working on stand alone versions. Mostly because AUv3 requires it, but also maybe for Windows.

Urs...you and the team are a bunch of marvels...

You could certainly teach a few other companies around here a thing or two about dynamic products and fine customer service

Your customer service is the best in town

[joris.roling]

Urs...how about a custom u-he wrapper for stand alone applications ?

We're working on stand alone versions. Mostly because AUv3 requires it, but also maybe for Windows.

But not for iOS, as you said you don't believe in the mobile market, right?
(I hope I'm wrong...)

[Urs]

But not for iOS

That's correct.

We deal with AUv3 just in case Apple drops support for AUv2.

iOS is not on the menu, but we plan to improve our user interfaces to work well with Luna Display and similar solutions for iPads. In fact we're hoping to use iPad Pros to produce "tangible" demo videos.

[joris.roling]

@Urs, thanks for that update.
Would that include the Apple native Sidecar way of using iPad as second screen?
Would be neat!

[Urs]

@Urs, thanks for that update.
Would that include the Apple native Sidecar way of using iPad as second screen?
Would be neat!

I tried Sidecar a few weeks ago and IIRC it's just a screen. No touch support as far as I remember.

[joris.roling]

@Urs, I think Sidecar does work with a pointer, at least these two pointers suggest it does...
https://www.apple.com/macos/catalina/do ... t_2019.pdf
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210380

[Urs]

Yeah, it works with an Apple Pencil. But that also means you have a similar situation to mouse usage where a gotta let go of the device while you play a keyboard and re-grab it to adjust parameters. It's even worse with a pen than it is with a mouse.

[digitalboytn]

How about zero latency for good old Zebra 2 in one of the updates please ?

She's an older girl now,but she's a true classic,so she's worth feeding

[EvilDragon]

You can disable the 16 samples latency in preferences...

[Nick 66]

Yeah, it works with an Apple Pencil. But that also means you have a similar situation to mouse usage where a gotta let go of the device while you play a keyboard and re-grab it to adjust parameters. It's even worse with a pen than it is with a mouse.

Just wanted to say, biggest revelation with soft synths was recently putting a 22inch touch screen just in front of keyboard, below main screen, and filling it with zoomed out zebra, diva or repro (or legend is also great). Had to disable right click in registry, but then it feels like removing a layer between me and synth, you can play with either hand and adjust with the other.

Multi-touch support would be a whole other level though. That's the only thing that breaks the illusion, when trying to change more than one thing at a time

It does actually sound better. I know that's an illusion, but it does feels like the making music is coming from your arms and body not from between your eyes like it feels with a mouse. Although that has its place, too, like when designing a sound in zebra.

Anyway would be great.

[digitalboytn]

You can disable the 16 samples latency in preferences...

Thank you...I will do that right now...

[fladd]

I know the inclusion of "samples" has been requested many times, and likewise discussed and dismissed as an option for Zebra 3. I also understand that Urs is against it, because he is afraid that people would then ask for multisamples, layering and all kind of things that would turn Zebra 3 into a sampler, moving away from synthesis. I agree with this. No one wants this.

But how U-he would feel about this:
Include 4 (one for each lane) PCM-based OSC modules, each with a fixed set of PCM waveforms of your choice. No user import. The OSC can be set to either oscillate (duh!), or to just trigger once for attack (think D-50 style). U-he could carefully select a set of PCM waveforms to include that would facilitate the synthesis of acoustic instruments (LA-synthesis). They could then even offer "expansion card"-like packs that consist of new PCM waveforms.

I think this could open up Zebra 3 for a whole new world of synth sounds, without the risk of turning it into a sampler or moving away from synthesis. Thoughts?

[Urs]

We're certain that the oscillators will support Hive-style wavetables (.wav and .uhm) on top of the current Geo/Spectro/Blend/Morph. A transient/one shot mode is an option under consideration, as is a separate transient modules which could take an oscillator (or anything) as an input (this would basically be a combination of VCA and envelope which creates a key-followed window).

[Ploki]

But how U-he would feel about this:
Include 4 (one for each lane) PCM-based OSC modules, each with a fixed set of PCM waveforms of your choice. No user import. The OSC can be set to either oscillate (duh!), or to just trigger once for attack (think D-50 style). U-he could carefully select a set of PCM waveforms to include that would facilitate the synthesis of acoustic instruments (LA-synthesis). They could then even offer "expansion card"-like packs that consist of new PCM waveforms.

I think this could open up Zebra 3 for a whole new world of synth sounds, without the risk of turning it into a sampler or moving away from synthesis. Thoughts?

I don't really like that idea. I categorically dislike sample-playback engines that DON'T allow me sample import, unless they're dedicated samplers, i.e. "piano" plugin.

It feels an unnecessary illogical constraint.
And in a super flexible power-synth like Zebra, it would make even LESS sense.

What you described is basically Nexus3

[medienhexer]

Ploki, I think the suggestion for limited included samples comes from Trying to find ways of avoiding to have to save presets including samples. If every Z3 installation has the same default samples, you can just save that selection the same way as any other parameter. Compare that to what you’d have to consider in a sampler:

- Missing Samples
- Resolving missing samples
- Mechanisms to support (semi-)automatic mapping
- Sample compression
- Moving samples to new location and resaving presets
- Preset-specific samples vs shared samples (to reduce duplicates)