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Trancit · Post by **Trancit** » Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:17 am

Tbh....respectively for me, there is no the best...

As always there are DAWs making X very well while being poor at Y... there is for me not a single DAW doing it all... but at the very end they are all useable in this regard...

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:34 am

Trancit wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:14 amBut it does only 50% of what does the transform tool of Ableton or S1

I'm not saying it does the same or more. Just wanted to share this peculiarity I've not seen elsewhere. Also 50% is not accurate, because - AFAIK - you can't randomize a straight line of automation points in neither. So while Bitwig definitely is behind in terms of reshaping already existing automation, it pulls ahead in terms of actually creating it. And, as I said, this feature can be used for ANYTHING you can multiselect in Bitwig.

I already said Live is IMO the best for automation, followed by S1: viewtopic.php?p=7727933#p7727933

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:41 am

Eclectrophonic wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:36 pm
vurt wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:23 pm
antic604 wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:22 pm
vurt wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:17 pm...
Have you tried Bitwig?
You CAN'T do that in Reaper

ive not tried either
No but thought about it. Causing Chaos there. What is Chaos exactly?

the beautiful state.

empphryio · Post by **empphryio** » Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:56 am

Eclectrophonic wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:31 pm
2 things in that video that I know you can do in Reaper are adjusting automation points by right clicking and manually entering values and you can select a range or clip of automation points and reduce the amount. It brings up a box with the amount of points displayed in it. You can then manually type a different number in (I think?) or was there an amount slider? Can you draw or paste in automation shapes though in Reaper?

Yes and yes.

Psuper · Post by **Psuper** » Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:42 pm

Reason certainly isn't the best DAW in many areas, but in automation nothing rivals it when it comes to uniformity and ease of doing so.

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:54 pm

What is Chaos exactly?

Chaos is the phenomenon when estimation error grows to infinity.

Not saying Ableton is best in this regard by any means, but envelope manipulation introduced in version 10 is quite something.
Or can't really tell, as I don't even use all its features in my workflow.

I'm too lazy or not enough imaginative to create complex automation curves for sound design.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:51 pm

whats the best daw for automatons?

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:13 pm

vurt wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:51 pm whats the best daw for automatons?

Live is the best

electronic115 · Post by **electronic115** » Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:25 pm

propellerad Reason has the best automation

right click on anything and voila

inkwarp · Post by **inkwarp** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:05 am

I like Ableton a lot in this regard.
And Studio One also, once I got used to how to do it...

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:41 am

electronic115 wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:25 pm propellerad Reason has the best automation

right click on anything and voila

That's actually Alt+click. Right click just opens a context menu.

apoclypse · Post by **apoclypse** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:33 pm

antic604 wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:41 am
electronic115 wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:25 pm propellerad Reason has the best automation

right click on anything and voila
That's actually Alt+click. Right click just opens a context menu.

Well they are not wrong since you get the Edit Automation option there, it's usually the first option.

Anyway for me S1 has the best automation tools. S1 gives you several ways to add automation curves, from the A button, to the Hand button, to just hitting Alt-A after clicking on any parameter in a plugin. The transform tools, the different curves etc. It's just really comprehensive, all it needs is automation clips so we can easily save the automation and reload if we want to. It can kind of be done now but its not as easy as something like Reason.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:43 pm

apoclypse wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:33 pmWell they are not wrong since you get the Edit Automation option there, it's usually the first option.

I meant Alt+click is faster, because you don't have to go to Edit Automation

Kinh · Post by **Kinh** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:10 pm

Distorted Horizon wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:42 am No such thing as "best", just different ways of doing it.

Wha-choo-on about?

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:25 pm

Kinh wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:10 pm
Distorted Horizon wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:42 am No such thing as "best", just different ways of doing it.
Wha-choo-on about?

f**k off trollboi.

Which DAW Is Best For Automation?