3.2 speculations

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SLiC wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:09 pm This bump is just for you :wink:
You heartless brute 😉
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Think I have good news for composers/arrangers, but can't reveal anything yet.

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antic604 wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:31 pm
SLiC wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:11 pm
antic604 wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:08 pm
TheMaestro wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:05 pmSo what do people want for 3.3?
I imagine the same that people want for 3.2, because inevitably 3.2 will add things no one was asking for, like 3.1 did ;) :D
I never asked for (or imagined) the pop up browser and smart collections but it is now one of my favourite features!
That's not what I meant. I like & use Pitch-12 modulator, quick draw/slice, note chase and interactive help all the time, too. I just meant what I wanted from 3.1 wasn't included then, so my expectations moved to 3.2 and I think they'll move again to 3.3 soon(ish) :)
:tu:

Sounds like my wife

- I don't know what I want - surprise me!
- that isn't what I wanted! :borg:

The only thing we can be sure of is that whatever they do it won't be enough and the needs of people who use Bitwig as a second 'specialist' DAW are totally different to those who want that 'one DAW' solution.

But what the heck- I will stick my neck out and say 'I want'...

Midi Grid (even though I am not really sure what that will be ;-))
Some form of comping as I like to play audio in live sometimes and not use midi (even though I will still probably use S1 if am working predominantly with live instruments)

Bitwig has a long way to go to rival the main linier DAWS with linier editing in one update, so I guess the choice is do you want a 'bit better' (but not best in class) 'standard' audio and midi editing or total new and novel ways of doing things?
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excuse me please wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:51 pm Think I have good news for composers/arrangers, but can't reveal anything yet.
Let me guess - Bitwig adds even more stuff useless for composers/arrangers, so they can finally give up waiting, move on and focus on other DAWs?
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Really handy to place the not so main editing feature at the right :roll:
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excuse me please wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:06 pm @antic604
What do you consider as being useless stuff for composers?

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Nvm :roll:

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Clearly, what all right-thinking Bitwiggers want is Bitwig-Chan... like FL-Chan but with bright orange hair, of course 😉
(in case you don't know what I am on about )
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excuse me please wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:06 pmWhat do you regard as being useless stuff for composers?
MSEG modulator, MIDI out from Grid, alias/linked clips, sequencer step input, GPU acceleration - you know, stuff most Bitwig users ask for ;)

BTW, why you refuse to use quotation feature?
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@antic604

Interesting, I'm afraid my simple brain does not fathom the 'linked clips' feature. I've consulted answers/bitwig, but I still have no clue what it means.

Btw I am not a scroll freak.

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excuse me please wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:29 pmInteresting, I'm afraid my simple brain does not fathom the 'linked clips' feature. I've consulted answers/bitwig, but I still have no clue what it means.
Well, it's all in the name. You have a clip. When you copy/paste or duplicate it with some dedicated modifier key, the duplicate becomes LINKED to the source clip, i.e. whatever you change in either is also reflected in the other. Yes, I know you can loop clips, etc. but it's not the same, i.e. try to inserting other clip(s) or silence in the middle of that loop? The loop's gonna get broken and will no longer update.

@xbitz - preemptively, I'm aware about Reason Rack VST and its various sequencer REs ;) :D :hug:
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SLiC wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:09 pm
carlca wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:25 am Every time I get a notification that this thread has received another reply, I am seized with mad anticipation that the 3.2 beta has finally arrived. Alas, every time, my dreams are thwarted 🙁
This bump is just for you :wink:

I used to wait several years before updates to Live...its amazing that I now expect (and have received) a significant updates every 3-4 months! :hyper: :tu:
It's longer this time... it will end up more like 5 months...

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excuse me please wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:51 pm Think I have good news for composers/arrangers, but can't reveal anything yet.
Now you have my attention :hyper:
Signatures are so early 2000s.

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antic604 wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:31 pm
SLiC wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:11 pm
antic604 wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:08 pm
TheMaestro wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:05 pmSo what do people want for 3.3?
I imagine the same that people want for 3.2, because inevitably 3.2 will add things no one was asking for, like 3.1 did ;) :D
I never asked for (or imagined) the pop up browser and smart collections but it is now one of my favourite features!
That's not what I meant. I like & use Pitch-12 modulator, quick draw/slice, note chase and interactive help all the time, too. I just meant what I wanted from 3.1 wasn't included then, so my expectations moved to 3.2 and I think they'll move again to 3.3 soon(ish) :)
I like the concept of the Pitch-12 modulator, but it doesn't work reliably. If you use it on notes with some release time, the pitch jumps back down on note off. I also notice a tiny pitch shift with the micro-pitch device sometimes... both of those still need a bit of work.

Otherwise I like 3.1

Improved performance (Mac in this case) is always welcome. Note chase is very useful. Some useful new Grid modules, Quick Draw and Quick Slice, Controller improvements. I think the interactive help is a solid benefit for new users. Then the Vocoder is a happy addition for me. All together, I think 3.1 was a solid update.

It's just becoming a longer period of time for 3.2

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@antic604
Thanks for the explanation! I have fiddle around a bit to figure it out.
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Oh well, could not keep my big mouth shut ☺

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