3.2 (Beta 1) is OUT!!!

[JHernandez]

Am I right in saying you can't normalize in Bitwig?

Yeah I use Audacity at the moment.

Since we are throwing around requests it wouldn't hurt to have the 'open with audio editor' option.

This would be realy nice, as long as it updates Bitwig of course.

Right now this happens to me very often
I'll drag a sample into the timeline for processing
I delete the sample because I find I need to edit it in an audio editor for whatever reason
Drag the edited sample back into Bitwig
Bitwig will play back the sample as it was before I edited it, frustration-emoji.gif

I get around this by renaming the sample but this can get really confusing when working with hundreds or thousands of samples. The names matter.

[Jonathan Shepherd]

Hi. I tried to install the beta and couldn't find any offline option, so I went and uninstalled both 3.13 and 3.2, thinking a fresh beta reinstall would work. But now neither version will install with an offline option. Also after reinstalling 3.13 it reverted to 8 track. What is this new guy here screwing up? Thanks---

You have to be online the first time you use a fresh beta install. It has to check if your upgrade plan is active. No way around it.
Regarding your other issue I have no clue.

Ah ok. That kinda sucks but oh well. As for the 3.13 install not giving me an offline option, guess I'll try to find any loose files causing trouble? Thanks for your help-

[SLiC]

Here is some cool stuff I am just getting my head around….

The arpeggiator now has a pitch control for each step and tracks micro pitch changes and polyphonic aftertouch (for us minority MPE users !)

But it doesn't support pitch slides on the held notes. The PolyAt support is cool

I find the arp workflow annoying. You can only move a single velocity or gate slider at a time. You cannot swipe across. So with the Gate, say I want to set 1 gate step to 200%, I have to set Gate to 200% then drag each of the steps individually to 50% except the one I want to have the full amount. So tedious.

Yes I agree, you should be able to 'draw' across- it would also be nice (and maybe in conjunction with this) if the arp had a 'show expanded view' button as it really is a pretty decent arp/step editor and it would be nice to have it bigger...and maybe 32 steps

[pdxindy]

Here is some cool stuff I am just getting my head around….

The arpeggiator now has a pitch control for each step and tracks micro pitch changes and polyphonic aftertouch (for us minority MPE users !)

But it doesn't support pitch slides on the held notes. The PolyAt support is cool

I find the arp workflow annoying. You can only move a single velocity or gate slider at a time. You cannot swipe across. So with the Gate, say I want to set 1 gate step to 200%, I have to set Gate to 200% then drag each of the steps individually to 50% except the one I want to have the full amount. So tedious.

Yes I agree, you should be able to 'draw' across- it would also be nice (and maybe in conjunction with this) if the arp had a 'show expanded view' button as it really is a pretty decent arp/step editor and it would be nice to have it bigger...and maybe 32 steps

I'd like the pitch slides to work too... (we're greedy )

[SLiC]

Here is some cool stuff I am just getting my head around….

The arpeggiator now has a pitch control for each step and tracks micro pitch changes and polyphonic aftertouch (for us minority MPE users !)

But it doesn't support pitch slides on the held notes. The PolyAt support is cool

I find the arp workflow annoying. You can only move a single velocity or gate slider at a time. You cannot swipe across. So with the Gate, say I want to set 1 gate step to 200%, I have to set Gate to 200% then drag each of the steps individually to 50% except the one I want to have the full amount. So tedious.

Yes I agree, you should be able to 'draw' across- it would also be nice (and maybe in conjunction with this) if the arp had a 'show expanded view' button as it really is a pretty decent arp/step editor and it would be nice to have it bigger...and maybe 32 steps

I'd like the pitch slides to work too... (we're greedy )

Not at all greedy- its so close to excellent it is worth 'finishing off' and it is clearly being worked on as part of the beta- so now is the time to hammer in sensible requests, even from this thread
today it is obvious Bitwig are both listening and acting on want is said here which is very admirable

[antic604]

Weirdly I like FM4 a lot more than Phase4

That's crazy haha. FM-4 is so dirty, mostly in an unpleasing way imo.

This is exactly why I like it

[hlzdnb2]

I absolutely hate the coloring on filter cutoff and other parameters, it makes the modulators amount visualization completely confusing, Terrible choice in a decent upgrade

[SLiC]

Its very cool that with the new EQ+ you can alter all the frequencies etc from the 'device panel' without opening the EQ or even being in the rack view- If you are in 'mixer view' and mixing you can just select the EQ+ on each track by selecting it in the mixer and make tweaks (the little graphic on the mixer updates) then just move to the next track and do the same.

Nice

[SLiC]

I absolutely hate the coloring on filter cutoff and other parameters, it makes the modulators amount visualization completely confusing, Terrible choice in a decent upgrade

But as soon as you add a modulator you loose the rainbow colouring?

[hlzdnb2]

I absolutely hate the coloring on filter cutoff and other parameters, it makes the modulators amount visualization completely confusing, Terrible choice in a decent upgrade

But as soon as you add a modulator you loose the rainbow colouring?

Not sure , i just downloaded the beta 2 and the rainbow color is there? Can anyone else confirm this?

[stamp]

Yes I agree, you should be able to 'draw' across- it would also be nice (and maybe in conjunction with this) if the arp had a 'show expanded view' button as it really is a pretty decent arp/step editor and it would be nice to have it bigger...and maybe 32 steps

I'd like the pitch slides to work too... (we're greedy )
[/quote]

+1

[stamp]

Open arp, set rate to ms and now double click the time rate....
They MUST give us slides...

[Randall P. McMurphy]

Weirdly I like FM4 a lot more than Phase4

That's crazy haha. FM-4 is so dirty, mostly in an unpleasing way imo. That can be useful depending on the context of course. Want a pristine bell sound? Nope, you're getting a dirty bell. A nice clean slap bass? Here's a dirty almost broken sounding one. Everything FM is supposed to do great that thing does really dirty and not in a nice crunchy way like an 80s DX7 does. Phase-4 will get you there though, no problem. I also think P-4 is dead simple to use. Brilliant UI design imo. It's my favorite synth in Bitwg, well the only Bitwig synth I use.

You know, I didn't know FM-4 got a facelift, or I totally forgot. Come to think of it, does anyone use Organ?

Organ is actually great, I added it back into a general use folder after ignoring it for some time.

Agree with you about Phase-4. Got really into ignoring the filter section entirely and just using the master bus shape and mod controls for things you would usually use the filter for.

I've actually dug back into Polysynth after ignoring that in favour of P-4 and find that it is now my most used of all the native Bitwig synths. The OSC blend gets you into really interesting territory.

[Randall P. McMurphy]

Ok last request for today hopefully this doesn't get buried.

Hardware CV instrument needs the legato option 'L' under the glide control. Phase-4 and Polysynth got this in the last update but for some reason the actual Hardware CV Instrument was missed.

You can make a workaround by creating a Grid preset to send your cv and gate since the Grid has the legato glide option. It is even possible to setup an audio channel in that same grid to return your hardware audio to the same track, and use a time shift to compensate for the latency. So you've duplicated all functionality of the Hardware CV Instrument.

This is how I'm running all my cv at the moment, and probably will for good since I like what I can do to it within the grid before and after. But yeah, legato should be on the basic Hardware CV Instrument for people that don't want to get that deep.

[lokanchung]

After testing the last beta...
It seems to me that there are hardcore people in Bitwig who love Grid (and it is amazing tool, yes!)
and there are people who sells the product. And not enough people who represent an average daw user.

Propellerhead did simillar thing. It was all about sound and modular synthesis. People who were using Fruity loops 2 were not taken seriously. But one company listened average home producrers and the other did not but instead implemented authorization usb and special daw just for recording .
Bitwig should easily take some things from fl studio, studio one, logic etc. and make it basic midi mouse / keyboard capabilities better.
But making MIDI better is not visible like new equalizer and six colours...

Yeah, fancy new stuff's are great but providing efficient DAW feature is super important.
All the cool sound design stuff is just nothing for "average DAW users" when they can't just make them into a song.

FL's workflow is fast and easy, and that's one big factor behind its popularity even with weaker sound design capabilities. They did their best to make things quick although they couldn't do much about the initial design choices. After 10 years spending on it, I started to hate those design choices. I had to spend so much time organizing, tidying up the mess I created.

There is one flashy things almost every daw misses. It is automatization clips like fl studio or mulab have.

I love FL's Automation Clip but didn't have much trouble with Live too. FL has a variety of curve type and can even create LFO, modulate things (automation clip automating an automation clip lol)
But I'm afraid that things are getting too complex...

bitwig seems like a great adept here as it can not duplicate gain envelope etc

Actually, you can do this with time selection tool. 2 -> select range -> Ctrl+D