3.2 (Beta 1) is OUT!!!

[SLiC]

Yeh, given that Pro-Q costs around 150 bucks on its own, it makes you release how good this 'built in' EQ! I like to use internal FX where I can as its great to have them in 'the rack' rather than a 'pop up' window and the fact that you can access the EQ from the inspector (you don't even need to be in the rack) makes it even more useful when mixing.

[bolba]

This one seems soooo elegant in old "Bitwig way" of doing things. Hope devs will implement it.

That's the Pro-Q way

Didn't know that ^_^ Though still hope they will borrow it.
EQ is one of few tools that any DAW should make properly to minimize usage of 3rd party plugins.

[pdxindy]

Yeh, given that Pro-Q costs around 150 bucks on its own, it makes you release how good this 'built in' EQ! I like to use internal FX where I can as its great to have them in 'the rack' rather than a 'pop up' window and the fact that you can access the EQ from the inspector (you don't even need to be in the rack) makes it even more useful when mixing.

That is the benefit of it... and it's a solid benefit! Especially for something used so often like an EQ

[Echoes in the Attic]

I may have missed this earlier in the thread but what is the difference now between volume and gain in the tool? Other than that volume goes to zero. So why is there a gain knob?

That's my understanding of it:

Well, this one was a feature request for a long time. Gain is - traditionally in audio - meant to be used for gain staging, i.e. making certain things louder or quieter, whereas Volume is more suitable for automating e.g. fade in / outs, therefore it has to go to -inf dB, whereas Gain is usually within a narrow range

I still don't understand the difference. Why would you not be able to use the volume for "gain staging". Volume makes things louder and quieter.

[antic604]

I may have missed this earlier in the thread but what is the difference now between volume and gain in the tool? Other than that volume goes to zero. So why is there a gain knob?

That's my understanding of it:

Well, this one was a feature request for a long time. Gain is - traditionally in audio - meant to be used for gain staging, i.e. making certain things louder or quieter, whereas Volume is more suitable for automating e.g. fade in / outs, therefore it has to go to -inf dB, whereas Gain is usually within a narrow range

I still don't understand the difference. Why would you not be able to use the volume for "gain staging". Volume makes things louder and quieter.

Believe me I'm with you about this, I'm just trying to explain what might've been dev's thinking behind it

[dreamstate42]

I may have missed this earlier in the thread but what is the difference now between volume and gain in the tool? Other than that volume goes to zero. So why is there a gain knob?

That's my understanding of it:

Well, this one was a feature request for a long time. Gain is - traditionally in audio - meant to be used for gain staging, i.e. making certain things louder or quieter, whereas Volume is more suitable for automating e.g. fade in / outs, therefore it has to go to -inf dB, whereas Gain is usually within a narrow range

I still don't understand the difference. Why would you not be able to use the volume for "gain staging". Volume makes things louder and quieter.

Believe me I'm with you about this, I'm just trying to explain what might've been dev's thinking behind it

One of the many "a distinction without a difference" (at least practical). Gain is controlling what goes in, volume is controlling what comes out. In digital audio, practically speaking, not much of a difference

[xbitz]

have u seen Brian's video about this topic ?

(15 Apr 2020)

[antic604]

I wonder if we're gonna see Beta 3 today? They usually release them on Fridays, so fingers crossed

[SLiC]

I wonder if we're gonna see Beta 3 today? They usually release them on Fridays, so fingers crossed

Depends if they have seen the list of tweaks we would like

[quincy]

I've only got about 3 weeks left on my upgrade plan and I'm wondering if I'll just squeeze in the new 3.2 version although it's probably a bit optimistic! I'm not particularly excited by the "colour your sound" focus in this release but in the past there have been some nice additions/tweaks during the Beta period so I'm curious to see what happens.

[SLiC]

I've only got about 3 weeks left on my upgrade plan and I'm wondering if I'll just squeeze in the new 3.2 version although it's probably a bit optimistic! I'm not particularly excited by the "colour your sound" focus in this release but in the past there have been some nice additions/tweaks during the Beta period so I'm curious to see what happens.

I feel your pain with respect to 'making the cut' but I kind of hope they take their time with the final releases and consider all of the small workflow tweaks the users have suggested....Alternatively I suppose they could 'get it out' as is and then use the 3.2.1, 3.2.2 upgrades to implement further refinements, so either works for me, and the latter is probably fairer given the upgrade plan is time sensitive until issued....

[krixa]

When using for instance a Drum Machine and expanding the pads/channels strips in mixer view. The new small EQ-display won't show on EQs on individual strips, only on the "master" Drum Machine channel. Is this intended or a bug?

[quincy]

I feel your pain with respect to 'making the cut'...

I'm not 100% a fan of this upgrade model but I've defended the company and the decision here on more than one occasion because I understand the economics of the business better than the average user and I'm a developer myself so I sympathise with the complexities involved. Nobody owes me anything and I don't believe I'm entitled to complain if I miss the "deadline" for an upgrade but it would just be a nice treat if I made it through!

I think it's an interesting point about the minor version updates - it makes me wonder if people would be happier if they did more "little and often" releases so that everyone is getting a regular stream of fixes and new features, even if they're relatively "small" ones e.g. new modulator, grid modules or a handful of bug fixes. That said, it might be harder for the devs to manage the development/test/release cycle with lots of small releases so that might actually slow things down.

Impossible to please everyone!

[antic604]

I hear the new Compressor's GUI will follow suit with the theme of making Bitwig more colorful and cutesy:

[SLiC]

I hear the new Compressor's GUI will follow suit with the theme of making Bitwig more colorful and cutesy:

Don't you dare put that on the suggestions thread!

I have just fished watching 'midnight gospel' on Netflix, so nothing looks to colourful or outlandish to me now! (review- weird, clever, moving...has an animated modular synth and an amazing soundtrack- watch it!)