KVR Audio

egbert · Post by **egbert** » Fri May 01, 2020 6:03 am

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egbert · Post by **egbert** » Fri May 01, 2020 6:05 am

egbert wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 6:02 am
AnX wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:23 am
recursive one wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:35 am
robindrieghe wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:30 am better then having kids.
Everything is better than having kids.

I've got two of them so I know what I'm talking about

well then, you should have learned your lesson after the first one...

Fiona O'Loughlin (comic in Oz) has five, she says: "We're going to keep trying until we get one we like."

Muziksculp · Post by **Muziksculp** » Mon May 04, 2020 2:23 am

I have the Virus Ti2 Desktop model. I love the way it sounds, I also wanted to add that the Virus Ti is not just a Trance music synth, it can deliver lots of sonic flavors for diverse musical genres.

Compared to VST Synths, I think it has something unique sonically that is not present in VST Synths, I can't pinpoint what that is, i.e. DUNE 3 is a wonderful sounding VST Synth, one of my favorites, and does in someways resemble the sonic character of the Virus, to some degree, but not exactly. I also love DIVA for analog emulations, but that's not a Virus either.

So, in conclusion, if you fancy the sound of a Virus, you need to get one

trusampler · Post by **trusampler** » Mon May 04, 2020 2:41 am

Had a couple of TI's, never liked the integration with USB 1, I still own the virus b poco. The closest Vsti to a virus ti in the box now is Viper imo.

Though with the partnership of Behringer and T. C. Electronics, I'm hoping they reunite with Access and finally code a proper vst product.

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Mon May 04, 2020 6:49 am

trusampler wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 2:41 am Though with the partnership of Behringer and T. C. Electronics...

What’s that?

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Mon May 04, 2020 7:00 am

Jace-BeOS wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 6:49 am
trusampler wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 2:41 am Though with the partnership of Behringer and T. C. Electronics...
What’s that?

5 years old news, that is...
https://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars ... ner-620555
https://www.tcelectronic.com/brand/tcel ... ans(en|en)

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Mon May 04, 2020 7:05 am

Huh. I never knew about that. It does explain why TC Electronic seemed to have changed their direction.

whannel · Post by **whannel** » Mon May 04, 2020 9:00 am

adamtrance wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:03 am
Rat 41 wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 12:55 pm
Distorted Horizon wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 12:15 pm But Viper can get you close.
Not in the slidest. I'm really sorry for Adam to say that, but Viper sounds like a cheap Chinese imitation of the real thing.

4damind wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:12 pm A Virus emulation where everyone says that it clearly sounds like a Virus does not exist. Viper is a joke and most others don't even say they sound like a Virus
I usually dont boast about my products, I think everyone has a right to their opinion, but in this case in Vipers defense, I have to say these claims are lies and absolute bulls**t.

Please only make bold statements if you can back them up, otherwise you are just throwing words around. I am genuinely interested why both of you think that, please, sit down, and make a video and compare the Virus to Viper. Or take whichever synth you think does a better job and make a video to prove it. I will do so here. Now its your turn. This video was made with an early alpha version of Viper and I compared some patches. This is an old video a lot has improved since, but already you can hear what it can do:

In this video a customer said that Viper sounds different to a Virus, so I was curious to see why, and after I helped him convert some patches properly, he became a believer

Now if you tell me those dont sound close, I am afraid we have a very different definition of "close".

Would be cool to see more of this style of preset comparison, perhaps from some of the best soundbanks if it's allowed? Better yet if some of the best soundbanks could be ported to Viper for sale, or work with the creators to make entirely new ones for Viper and you sell them direct?

If doing more comparison videos, maybe even do it as a 'how to make' series teaching everyone how to make nice pads/leads/plucks etc while using Viper as a chance to show off what it can do and find new customers, comparing with the Virus to boost interest even more.

Since I'm sure the main Viper thred mentioned new banks coming, some of the nicer sounding banks I could find would be great to see - a SL bank for me would be the best shout since he has some in there already:

https://soundcloud.com/lfostore/access- ... by-chronos

https://soundcloud.com/aiyn-zahev/virus ... ank-evolve

https://soundcloud.com/synthpresets/syn ... s-fm-power

https://soundcloud.com/beatlabaudio/bea ... 1-virus-ti

https://soundcloud.com/aiyn-zahev/virus ... l1-out-now

https://soundcloud.com/sunny-lax/sunny- ... ndset-demo

https://soundcloud.com/project-8-1/proj ... et-out-now

https://soundcloud.com/asl-soundlab/asl ... idote-vol2

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon May 04, 2020 9:43 am

I absolutely love those sounds.

Now if anyone could tell me why I found the Viper demo so lame.

anoise · Post by **anoise** » Mon May 04, 2020 11:13 am

adamtrance wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:03 am
Rat 41 wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 12:55 pm Not in the slidest. I'm really sorry for Adam to say that, but Viper sounds like a cheap Chinese imitation of the real thing.

4damind wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:12 pm A Virus emulation where everyone says that it clearly sounds like a Virus does not exist. Viper is a joke and most others don't even say they sound like a Virus
I usually dont boast about my products, I think everyone has a right to their opinion, but in this case in Vipers defense, I have to say these claims are lies and absolute bulls**t.

Well said!

chk071 wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 9:43 am Now if anyone could tell me why I found the Viper demo so lame.

Can you elaborate? Viper demo had some issues when I tried it years ago, which the full version did not have.

Interesting, all these 3 users who reject Viper, are from Germany. Coincidence?

trusampler · Post by **trusampler** » Mon May 04, 2020 11:40 am

Viper can easily compare to the virus sonically. I know that might suck to hear if you've invested over 2gs in a synth,but it's the truth.
Same thing as the prophet 5 vs repro from uhe. Some plugins are truly as good as what they're emulating. Hats off to Adam for creating this beast.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon May 04, 2020 11:49 am

anoise wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 11:13 am
chk071 wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 9:43 am Now if anyone could tell me why I found the Viper demo so lame.
Can you elaborate? Viper demo had some issues when I tried it years ago, which the full version did not have.

Interesting, all these 3 users who reject Viper, are from Germany. Coincidence?

Access Music ftw.

Nah, I just found Viper's sound somehow... ordinary, and a bit tame. At least compared to what I heard from the Virus. Mind that I never heard one in person, but, heard loads of sound demos, and lots of music featuring the Virus. Maybe I'm wrong. I know that Spire isn't sounding the same as a Virus, but, it somehow has that vibe for me, and sounds much more exciting to me.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Mon May 04, 2020 1:01 pm

chk071 wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 11:49 am
anoise wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 11:13 am
chk071 wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 9:43 am Now if anyone could tell me why I found the Viper demo so lame.
Can you elaborate? Viper demo had some issues when I tried it years ago, which the full version did not have.

Interesting, all these 3 users who reject Viper, are from Germany. Coincidence?
Access Music ftw.

Nah, I just found Viper's sound somehow... ordinary, and a bit tame. At least compared to what I heard from the Virus. Mind that I never heard one in person, but, heard loads of sound demos, and lots of music featuring the Virus. Maybe I'm wrong. I know that Spire isn't sounding the same as a Virus, but, it somehow has that vibe for me, and sounds much more exciting to me.

I wonder what would you say if you had an opportunity to play an actual Virus.

It is actually not the most impressive synth when it comes to basic patches. Compared to state of art vsti the oscillators sound dull, the filters have some kind of plasticky quality, the resonance may go very nasty in a bad digital way, you can easily spot some aliasing.

The magic starts happening when you build more complex patches, add effects and modulations, use unison.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon May 04, 2020 1:19 pm

The raw sound actually sounds fine to me:

I rarely experienced it that the sweet spot isn't there, when the raw sound is already good.

Vectorman · Post by **Vectorman** » Mon May 04, 2020 2:23 pm

The Virus is very much a "sum of its parts" thing - looking at each of its individual bits, they can look a little behind the times compared to the newest plugins, but somehow how it all goes together it still spits out some very pleasing sounds at the end. The more smoothed-off, less top-end-heavy sound can sometimes come across as dark, but it also helps it stack very well...I find I can put many Virus sounds together in one place in a song and they often just fold in nicely with minimal EQ needed.

Of course one thing you can't emulate with software is the keybed. The 61-key models have what many consider one of the nicest synth-action keybeds available, better than what's in most dedicated controllers. Especially when you buy a used one for half the new price (which is what I did), it becomes a pretty good value when you factor in how nice it is as a master keyboard to control software too.

Is it Honestly True That Access Virus = VSTI's