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Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Mon May 04, 2020 11:19 am

fisherKing wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 11:17 am will you be our president??....

Perhaps his new nickname could be MK Ultra.

el-bo (formerly ebow) · Mon May 04, 2020 11:21 am

excuse me please · Post by **excuse me please** » Mon May 04, 2020 11:31 am

I knew this was going to be a happy thread. We need more happy threads at kvr

Just saying

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Mon May 04, 2020 11:41 am

Markus Krause wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 9:15 am I admit that i made misstakes in the past when the company was still young. I apologize for it and I have learned from it. I fixed and changed things - many of them already years ago.
Since this year the copy protection is a keyfile only or has been completely removed to make sure that older products continue to work for a long time in the future.
I listen to the customers a lot and take feedback seriously. I regularly release big and free updates which can be downloaded here:
https://www.tone2.com/download.html

Best Regards,
Markus Krause

Huge kudos Markus . I said this recently on another thread, your customer service has improved by leaps and bounds. Your new demeanor/attitude , your free updates etc. Really appreciated.
Rsp

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Mon May 04, 2020 11:43 am

I love Tone2 synths and had done a lot of beta testing and sound design for them in the past where i had close contact with Markus and he always behaved nicely to me.

After not having done much testing and sound design in the last 2 years i am finally back at this now (currently with the upcoming OB-Xa plugin from Synapse Audio...) and hope to also do that again with Tone2 in the near future.

Icarus and Saurus are still in my TOP 10 all time favorite softsynths.

My best wishes to Markus and Tone2.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Mon May 04, 2020 11:47 am

robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Mon May 04, 2020 1:08 pm

chk071 wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 9:41 am No need to apologize. Absolutely none.

Technically that's not true. Tone2 is one of those rare companies that has been noteworthy because of their shady shenanigans when it comes to copy protection. Their reputation regarding this has been well-deserved.

Even though I do understand that piracy is an issue for developers, I find it hard to excuse such practices. After all, Tone2 is not the only company in the world facing those issues.

So respect for them reckoning this.

Forgotten · Post by **Forgotten** » Mon May 04, 2020 1:10 pm

There are a few other developers who could take a page out of your book and show humility like this. I don't know what the issues are, but it certainly piques my interest in your plugins now to see that you are willing to admit to whatever mistakes you made and to publicly state that.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon May 04, 2020 1:21 pm

robotmonkey wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 1:08 pm
chk071 wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 9:41 am No need to apologize. Absolutely none.
Technically that's not true. Tone2 is one of those rare companies that has been noteworthy because of their shady shenanigans when it comes to copy protection. Their reputation regarding this has been well-deserved.

Even though I do understand that piracy is an issue for developers, I find it hard to excuse such practices. After all, Tone2 is not the only company in the world facing those issues.

You make this sound like a fact while it is only your opinion. Based on non facts actually, because, you don't know what exactly is going on under the hood. None of us do.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon May 04, 2020 1:24 pm

Well no, some of those things mentioned are in fact facts. Either way, kudos to Markus for owning it.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon May 04, 2020 1:28 pm

EvilDragon wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 1:24 pm Well no, some of those things mentioned are in fact facts.

Apart from the things Markus has said, none of it is really a fact, rather a repeat of what some guy from a warez group posted in a warez forum, which in his eyes was "immoral". Oh the irony.

Anyway, as a user of the plugins, I couldn't care less either way. I don't use warez.

robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Mon May 04, 2020 1:29 pm

chk071 wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 1:21 pm
robotmonkey wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 1:08 pm
chk071 wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 9:41 am No need to apologize. Absolutely none.
Technically that's not true. Tone2 is one of those rare companies that has been noteworthy because of their shady shenanigans when it comes to copy protection. Their reputation regarding this has been well-deserved.

Even though I do understand that piracy is an issue for developers, I find it hard to excuse such practices. After all, Tone2 is not the only company in the world facing those issues.
You make this sound like a fact while it is only your opinion. Based on non facts actually, because, you don't know what exactly is going on under the hood. None of us do.

It's not an opinion. Some of that stuff is super easy to verify with simple and freely available debugging and forensic tools if are technologically savvy enough. You do not need even to be evil mastermind hax0r or programmer for this.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon May 04, 2020 1:29 pm

So, did you do that? What are your findings?

robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Mon May 04, 2020 1:32 pm

chk071 wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 1:29 pm So, did you do that? What are your findings?

Yes. The findings are true.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon May 04, 2020 1:34 pm

Ok...

My findings are often also true.

I apologize for my mistakes made in the past