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vurt wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 3:57 pm
Markus Krause wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 3:51 pm @vurt: claudedefaren did only quote a part of my post. Please read the conversation completely
but no one had mentioned it in the other thread

i dont like you being piled on for past mistakes, we all make them...
but dont ruin it for yourself.
Agreed.

Not only that, Urs is very well respected around these parts, so throwing shit at him isn't doing yourself any favors...

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chk071 wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 3:42 pm Well... this topic is about mistakes right? So, robotmonkey shall be forgiven for not speaking the truth. :ud:
LoLwut? Where have I not spoken the truth? I'm not gonna flood this thread with all the old forums posts about that stuff even though I could. If anyone is interested they can google themselves.

I do appreciate what Markus said in OP, so let's leave it at that.
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Tracking cookies are actually a super useful thing for business on the net, but, hey, I won't add to such a discussion again now too. The business is evil train is already running on full steam most of the time in these forums.

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robotmonkey wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 4:03 pm
chk071 wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 3:42 pm Well... this topic is about mistakes right? So, robotmonkey shall be forgiven for not speaking the truth. :ud:
LoLwut? Where have I not spoken the truth? I'm not gonna flood this thread with all the old forums posts about that stuff even though I could. If anyone is interested they can google themselves.
I thought Markus just addressed those things.

But, it's what I thought. Ultimately, it's about what you believe, not what you know.

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Agreed.

Not only that, Urs is very well respected around these parts, so throwing shit at him isn't doing yourself any favors...
Even if Urs wasn't... this is not the way one „company“ should talk about others, even if u-he had some really bad shit happening behind their pristine facade
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Agreed. Should not mention another company in a negative way. I will edit it
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FapFilter wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 4:05 pm
Agreed.

Not only that, Urs is very well respected around these parts, so throwing shit at him isn't doing yourself any favors...
Even if Urs wasn't... this is not the way one „company“ should talk about others, even if u-he had some really bad shit happening behind their pristine facade
I've read similar things from Urs though. About a few other developers.

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FapFilter wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 4:05 pm
Agreed.

Not only that, Urs is very well respected around these parts, so throwing shit at him isn't doing yourself any favors...
Even if Urs wasn't... this is not the way one „company“ should talk about others, even if u-he had some really bad shit happening behind their pristine facade
Since U-he have very good reputation here i personally found it interesting to know (didn't know that U-he doing this). Where is the problem when it is true? Markus didn't point it out without reason so imo he have all rights to mention it here.
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chk071 wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 4:09 pm
FapFilter wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 4:05 pm
Agreed.

Not only that, Urs is very well respected around these parts, so throwing shit at him isn't doing yourself any favors...
Even if Urs wasn't... this is not the way one „company“ should talk about others, even if u-he had some really bad shit happening behind their pristine facade
I've read similar things from Urs though. About a few other developers.
and id have the same advice if i read it.

i dont care who a company is, whatever the business, down talking competitors should be done in the products, not smack talk.
its unbecoming.
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This was perfectly valid technical comparison, imho. Especially in the context it was made.
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100% agree with what vurt said

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vurt wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 4:12 pm
chk071 wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 4:09 pm
FapFilter wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 4:05 pm
Agreed.

Not only that, Urs is very well respected around these parts, so throwing shit at him isn't doing yourself any favors...
Even if Urs wasn't... this is not the way one „company“ should talk about others, even if u-he had some really bad shit happening behind their pristine facade
I've read similar things from Urs though. About a few other developers.
and id have the same advice if i read it.

i dont care who a company is, whatever the business, down talking competitors should be done in the products, not smack talk.
its unbecoming.
I agree. I just don't get why one person gets a smack for it, and the other doesn't.

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It's never a clever thing to do in any kind of business to s#it talk about your competitors. In any way Markus is right, he should remove this information, be it right or wrong, it doesn't matter.

Tone2 is a top VST company, they don't need this kind of actions to shine among the competitors, theirs products are well enough.

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chk071 wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 4:16 pm
vurt wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 4:12 pm
chk071 wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 4:09 pm
FapFilter wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 4:05 pm
Agreed.

Not only that, Urs is very well respected around these parts, so throwing shit at him isn't doing yourself any favors...
Even if Urs wasn't... this is not the way one „company“ should talk about others, even if u-he had some really bad shit happening behind their pristine facade
I've read similar things from Urs though. About a few other developers.
and id have the same advice if i read it.

i dont care who a company is, whatever the business, down talking competitors should be done in the products, not smack talk.
its unbecoming.
I agree. I just don't get why one person gets a smack for it, and the other doesn't.
because, contrary to popular beliefs, i dont read everything here. i saw this, i commented, if i saw urs doing it, i would.

it wasnt so much a slap as advice :)
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