Logic Pro 10.5 is out!

[TheMaestro]

Does it run on Windows again?

Yes. But under the name «Studio One».

[h2ogun99]

I think the flat minimalism in design is just a reflection of what's happened with physical design. I chalk it up to seeking calm in an ever noisier, both audibly and visually, world. I think it's gone too far, as you don't have to worship skeuomorphism to acknowledge that we see and interpret 3D, and if used wisely, it will speed recognition and cognition.

Agree. Exactly why street signs will never be 3D models - they are there to serve a purpose. I believe the flat look is not a design choice because some people think it looks cool. Instead, it enables scaling/resizing to occur much easier due to being vector-based. They are accommodating our desire for control and various screen resolutions.

[fmr]

Does it run on Windows again?

[fmr]

Instead, it enables scaling/resizing to occur much easier due to being vector-based. They are accommodating our desire for control and various screen resolutions.

Many vendors have scaling/resizing, even vector based, without having to be minimalistic flat. That's a poor and lazy excuse.

[Ploki]

Agree. Exactly why street signs will never be 3D models - they are there to serve a purpose. I believe the flat look is not a design choice because some people think it looks cool. Instead, it enables scaling/resizing to occur much easier due to being vector-based. They are accommodating our desire for control and various screen resolutions.

frankly, 3D games have been scaling/resizing since 1995. shouldn't really be an issue in 2020, if someone wanted that.

[machinesworking]

Can't say I really care what the icons look like, it's the functionality that I care about, and I'll bet they change them again on the next update...

*Edit* They respond to track color? That's cool.

Appearance IMPACTS UI-readability, and therefore directly impacts functionality. I respect where you're coming from, but I am a VERY visually-oriented person. This flat fad is absolutely hurting me more than other people who are comfortable to rely only on text labels. Yet another way in which I have to suffer as an invisible minority, I guess.

You can create your own custom icons. I always hated the stock Logic icons, so years ago I learned how, and it's super easy now. This is absolutely the least of our worries GUI wise. I like darker colors and would like to just take the whole theme down a notch, no can do without buying some dudes custom themes, where he made "realistic" looking knobs and sliders that don't match the rest of the program..

[machinesworking]

I think the flat minimalism in design is just a reflection of what's happened with physical design. I chalk it up to seeking calm in an ever noisier, both audibly and visually, world. I think it's gone too far, as you don't have to worship skeuomorphism to acknowledge that we see and interpret 3D, and if used wisely, it will speed recognition and cognition.

Agree. Exactly why street signs will never be 3D models - they are there to serve a purpose. I believe the flat look is not a design choice because some people think it looks cool. Instead, it enables scaling/resizing to occur much easier due to being vector-based. They are accommodating our desire for control and various screen resolutions.

Personally I like my DAW to be in the background, and the plug ins to have color etc. It's from Logic 7 and Live for years maybe that I prefer this, but it's easier to digest quickly IMO. In Logic Custom icons can point you towards things in it's flat design etc.

IMO Live and Bitwig are far more guilty of same same looking plug ins that blend together. I couldn't care if I wanted to that much about skeuomorphism VS flat design, I just want it to stand separately when it's a separate device.

[pdxindy]

Plugins this update could reasonably replace for me:

-Battery
-Stix
-Stutter Edit
-TRK-01
-Sitala
Probably more.
And no real need to upgrade to Reason 11 anymore.

I'll probably keep that stuff for diversity's sake but I could really simplify if I want.

Nice job evil empire!
Your loyal subject is placated once more.

Logic as a Daw, Due to Alchemy and Now the Updated Samplers, Drum Synths and Sculpture could theoretically Invalidate Every Plugin I have Except Serum...As far as "Needed For My Work " is concerned, and as far as Not having an Alternative

And I'm not Going to part with My FabFilter Plugins, Kontakt, Reaktor or Pigments anytime soon , But If I had to Logics stuff Compensates for them.
The value is Insane, Honestly Insane.
I keep forgetting How amazing the Stock Compressor is, and CromaVerb, And all the EQs, The Delays. It's crazy.

without question the best value for the dollar of any DAW... and that we keep getting impressive updates for free.

[jimmypressplay]

I've been using both Logic and Ableton for the past few months (depending on what I'm trying to do), and I must say this latest update might end up making Logic my primary DAW I start with. Some things I've noticed so far:

Flex pitch integration in Quick Sampler & Sampler! Love the ability to just load in a sample, and immediately it is mapped to every key, transposed, and the tempo is maintained. Unless I was doing it wrong beforehand, this saves me a LOT of time workflow wise

Also, I'm impressed that my Launchpad Mini works pretty well so far with Live Loops. Although it is a little funky having to turn the device 90 degrees clockwise so everything is aligned properly. It seems like pressing the "Session" button on the device will trigger between two different views: the main view which allows you to trigger clips and tracks, and then a secondary view which allows to adjust volumes, pans, etc. Although for the life of me, I have not figured out where the Master Stop button is mapped to (if it is indeed mapped to any button).

One last note about Live Loops mood. It doesn't appear that you can set "follow" actions for individual clips, maybe that'll arrive in a future update.

[machinesworking]

Yeah this update is brutal. I ended up buying Logic, Bitwig, and Reaper to replace Live and DP10 maybe since neither is MPE computable.

I've contemplated going back to Logic for it's Articulation maps alone, but that it now does Clips might be the final straw. Plus all the sample mangling updates, from Drum Designer to finally having Autosampler built in. Drum Designer is pretty much the perfect companion to Beatstep Pro, that's plainly obvious. I've been looking to replace Maschine and the MPC Live, and I think this does it.

I still hate the way Logic treats AUi's by channel instead of port, that it's AU only, but the fact it now offers all the "newer" things I want, MPE, Articulation maps, and clip launching, makes up for it. I guess I'll be giving Logic a run for the next couple weeks.

[Captain]

Amazing update! But God ****ing damn it! Logic 10.5 is still missing side-chain PDC and also plug-in delay compensation for automation. This can't be real!!!

Ahh, now that you mention this - I ran into this issue some years ago when trying to do sidechain volume pumping or similar. Always wanted to examine what exactly is going on, but I think I somehow instinctively learned to avoid doing anything where this becomes an issue, and never really gave the problem a name. But yes, it's definitely something that should be fixed. Thanks, I'll join the (hopefully numerous) others and send some feedback to Apple.

[apoclypse]

Wow. I used to be a hardcode Logic user for quite some time but ever since 10.0 I lost trust in Apple even after all the amazing updates they given us over the years. This, this right here is a significant update and a really good one at that. I may become a Logic die hard again after this update.

The two samplers look great. DMD finally looks usable. Being able to drag plugins to the cells is amazing. I haven't really bothered with Battery in a while but now even more so it makes little sense when almost every major DAW has really decent drum modules.

I haven't gotten to play with the launcher yet or the step sequencer but wow they went super HAM on this release and its free! Think about that. It's freaking free. This would be a paid upgrade with any other DAW.

[apoclypse]

OMG. You can load and save pattern templates and presets!

The new DMD is awesome. I don't remember if that was there before but now you can slice convert to DMD as well. When you drop a sample you get a mini Quick Sampler, or if you add a Drum synth the synth view. Nice!

[plexuss]

Looks like it might be a good update. Too bad for me that I migrated away from Logic and to Reaper and now I am working in Reaper and the thought of using Logic gives me a headache. Plus 10.5 wont run on 10.13 and I don't plan to update. But, no matter, I use Reaper now! Congrats to all your Logic users!

[jonljacobi]

I think the flat minimalism in design is just a reflection of what's happened with physical design. I chalk it up to seeking calm in an ever noisier, both audibly and visually, world. I think it's gone too far, as you don't have to worship skeuomorphism to acknowledge that we see and interpret 3D, and if used wisely, it will speed recognition and cognition.

Agree. Exactly why street signs will never be 3D models - they are there to serve a purpose. I believe the flat look is not a design choice because some people think it looks cool. Instead, it enables scaling/resizing to occur much easier due to being vector-based. They are accommodating our desire for control and various screen resolutions.

A stop sign is not 3D itself, but it exists in a 3D environment. But yes, rendered objects and simple bitmaps are far easier to scale. And I very much like scaling at my age. LOL. I wish Logic did, but the Mac does it very well, so no biggie.

I really don't have the problem with flat a lot of people do, as long as it's done well and the designers follow the rules for contrast, alignment, delineation, consistency, etc.