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[Kalamata Kid]

ALL fantastic giveaways from Valhalla for NOW

Valhalla Freq Echo FREE
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Valhalla Supermassive FREE
https://valhalladsp.com/shop/reverb/val ... ermassive/

Valhalla SpaceModulator FREE
** ValhallaSpaceModulator is FREE for anyone who has purchased a plugin directly from Valhalla DSP!
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Valhalla Supermassive FREE zip file has one issue with www.virustotal.com
Should I be concerned? Perhaps a falsie positive?
Valhalla Freq Echo FREE zip file has no issues.

[leo007]

Valhalla Supermassive FREE has one issue with www.virustotal.com
Should I be concerned? Perhaps a falsie positive?
Valhalla Freq Echo FREE has no issues.

interesting finding )
IMHO its false positive

[Kalamata Kid]

Valhalla Supermassive FREE has one issue with www.virustotal.com
Should I be concerned? Perhaps a falsie positive?
Valhalla Freq Echo FREE has no issues.

interesting finding )
IMHO its false positive

I just checked and the Supermassive FREE exe file has four issues
and the Valhalla Freq Echo FREE exe file has one issue.

[frackermak]

As someone that's only ever used Reaper.
Why is it poor with midi instruments?
Intrigued to know what I'm missing.
Thanks.

^^^
At one time we had the MFX standard by Cakewalk and that made midi fx easy to work with. The VST midi fx are not given the recognition as a standard and treaded like the MFX was. Apparently the DAW developers do not like working with midi.

In the past I used Bidule to host both the audio and midi fx. Now looks like will be using Unify.
The first DAW that treats the VST midi FX the same as MFX will become my main DAW.

Reaper seems ok for that but is so poor in other areas that I would not get it for anything requiring midi instruments, given the other DAWs available that are great. In the end you have tradeoffs, why is ARA2 so important? (I love it for Melodyne in Studio One so it is great to have - but then I have Bitwig now as well to handle things S1 is not as good at- and Reaper as an audio only editor, which it is great at)
If you have a diverse practise like I do then you will want and maybe need more than one bit of software. After being Reaper only for a very long time I have finally realised the one size fits all approach is not successful for me, although I might end up like Tom and be almost entirely Bitwig

[leo007]

I just checked and the Supermassive FREE exe file has four issues
and the Valhalla Freq Echo FREE exe file has one issue.

I think its better foreword those finding to Valhalla team attention, to check it out

[fairlyclose]

As someone that's only ever used Reaper.
Why is it poor with midi instruments?
Intrigued to know what I'm missing.
Thanks.

^^^
At one time we had the MFX standard by Cakewalk and that made midi fx easy to work with. The VST midi fx are not given the recognition as a standard and treaded like the MFX was. Apparently the DAW developers do not like working with midi.

In the past I used Bidule to host both the audio and midi fx. Now looks like will be using Unify.
The first DAW that treats the VST midi FX the same as MFX will become my main DAW.

Reaper seems ok for that but is so poor in other areas that I would not get it for anything requiring midi instruments, given the other DAWs available that are great. In the end you have tradeoffs, why is ARA2 so important? (I love it for Melodyne in Studio One so it is great to have - but then I have Bitwig now as well to handle things S1 is not as good at- and Reaper as an audio only editor, which it is great at)
If you have a diverse practise like I do then you will want and maybe need more than one bit of software. After being Reaper only for a very long time I have finally realised the one size fits all approach is not successful for me, although I might end up like Tom and be almost entirely Bitwig

First up let me say I was not expecting the huge improvement in workflow and functionality (and just sheer pleasure) that I am seeing using Bitwig and to a lesser extent Studio One.
I guess that surprise depends on ones specific system and needs from music software as a lot of Reaper problems tend to be system specific - but for me Reaper performance with say Kontakt and Falcon would degrade over time to the point where they took ages to load or change settings. Does not happen in Bitwig or Studio One - they are way faster to load instruments than Reaper even at its best.
The whole (now fixed I think) modal window issue with Kontakt that meant I had to force shut down Reaper when I tried to close Kontakt because there was a hidden window asking to save changes. Many issues with the layout or modulation that are just vastly superior in Bitwig or Studio One - eg the ARA implementation in Studio One is seamless and far superior to Reaper, the take system in Reaper is awful - of course one can use macros to improve on that but it still is not as good as in Studio One or Bitwig for a range of tasks. The list goes on and on.
But as I keep saying, for multitrack audio and audio in general Reaper is very very good. And I will keep using it for that.
But for midi etc - it is not as if you cant do some major things in Reaper - you can, just that doing those things will take more work and be more intrusive into the creative process. It really is the Linux of DAWs, needing lots of maintenance, care and attention but just great for those moments when you get it working for that particular task

[WatchTheGuitar]

There again Reaper has built in MIDI event list and Staff view which Bitwig and Studio One don't have out of the box and I think the way you can drag and drop routing in Reaper is one of my favourite features.

I am also in the multiple DAWs until I find 'the one' camp.

[Vintage73]

One abbreviation regarding S1: MPE.

If S1 5 Pro supports MPE I will most likely switch back to it. Until then I'll be sticking with Cubase. Lord knows I have enough invested in and selling it only gets pennies on the dollar if past is precedent.

I love its workflow otherwise. Oh, and I don't like some of the changes in Cubase 10.5.

[fairlyclose]

One abbreviation regarding S1: MPE.

If S1 5 Pro supports MPE I will most likely switch back to it. Until then I'll be sticking with Cubase. Lord knows I have enough invested in and selling it only gets pennies on the dollar if past is precedent.

I love its workflow otherwise. Oh, and I don't like some of the changes in Cubase 10.5.

S1 doesn't have a good template system yet either - does not need much, but not preserving routing is a bummer

[peakles]

As someone that's only ever used Reaper.
Why is it poor with midi instruments?
Intrigued to know what I'm missing.
Thanks.

^^^
At one time we had the MFX standard by Cakewalk and that made midi fx easy to work with. The VST midi fx are not given the recognition as a standard and treaded like the MFX was. Apparently the DAW developers do not like working with midi.

In the past I used Bidule to host both the audio and midi fx. Now looks like will be using Unify.
The first DAW that treats the VST midi FX the same as MFX will become my main DAW.

Reaper seems ok for that but is so poor in other areas that I would not get it for anything requiring midi instruments, given the other DAWs available that are great. In the end you have tradeoffs, why is ARA2 so important? (I love it for Melodyne in Studio One so it is great to have - but then I have Bitwig now as well to handle things S1 is not as good at- and Reaper as an audio only editor, which it is great at)
If you have a diverse practise like I do then you will want and maybe need more than one bit of software. After being Reaper only for a very long time I have finally realised the one size fits all approach is not successful for me, although I might end up like Tom and be almost entirely Bitwig

First up let me say I was not expecting the huge improvement in workflow and functionality (and just sheer pleasure) that I am seeing using Bitwig and to a lesser extent Studio One.
I guess that surprise depends on ones specific system and needs from music software as a lot of Reaper problems tend to be system specific - but for me Reaper performance with say Kontakt and Falcon would degrade over time to the point where they took ages to load or change settings. Does not happen in Bitwig or Studio One - they are way faster to load instruments than Reaper even at its best.
The whole (now fixed I think) modal window issue with Kontakt that meant I had to force shut down Reaper when I tried to close Kontakt because there was a hidden window asking to save changes. Many issues with the layout or modulation that are just vastly superior in Bitwig or Studio One - eg the ARA implementation in Studio One is seamless and far superior to Reaper, the take system in Reaper is awful - of course one can use macros to improve on that but it still is not as good as in Studio One or Bitwig for a range of tasks. The list goes on and on.
But as I keep saying, for multitrack audio and audio in general Reaper is very very good. And I will keep using it for that.
But for midi etc - it is not as if you cant do some major things in Reaper - you can, just that doing those things will take more work and be more intrusive into the creative process. It really is the Linux of DAWs, needing lots of maintenance, care and attention but just great for those moments when you get it working for that particular task

thanks for clarifying, I'm on the same boat of frackermak, only used Reaper so far and I like it a lot overall. Anyway, now I'm wondering if maybe I should give a try to other DAWs when I have the time.

Regarding the modal window issue with Kontakt, at least in my experience it wasn't fixed (unfortuanately!). You can click the Reaper icon in the task bar and right click the modal Windows and then click "move", move it out of behind the main Kontakt window and click "yes" or "no" to save changes. This way, you can manage to continue working without shutting down, but it annoys me anyway. A lot of work to a simple task.

[fairlyclose]

Regarding the modal window issue with Kontakt, at least in my experience it wasn't fixed (unfortuanately!). You can click the Reaper icon in the task bar and right click the modal Windows and then click "move", move it out of behind the main Kontakt window and click "yes" or "no" to save changes. This way, you can manage to continue working without shutting down, but it annoys me anyway. A lot of work to a simple task.

thats the fixed version

[peakles]

Regarding the modal window issue with Kontakt, at least in my experience it wasn't fixed (unfortuanately!). You can click the Reaper icon in the task bar and right click the modal Windows and then click "move", move it out of behind the main Kontakt window and click "yes" or "no" to save changes. This way, you can manage to continue working without shutting down, but it annoys me anyway. A lot of work to a simple task.

thats the fixed version

OMG!

[LoveEnigma18]

Quick and probably a silly question: How does one use MPE-enabled synths like Pigments? I think it needs an MPE-capable MIDI Controller Keyboard, right?

[WatchTheGuitar]

Quick and probably a silly question: How does one use MPE-enabled synths like Pigments? I think it needs an MPE-capable MIDI Controller Keyboard, right?

Ideally, but even without them you can use automation to affect MPE-connected attributes in your DAW if it understands MPE.

[ThomasHelzle]

Quick and probably a silly question: How does one use MPE-enabled synths like Pigments? I think it needs an MPE-capable MIDI Controller Keyboard, right?

That's the main point, yes. Being able to real-time perform things like per-note pitch etc.
You can do it manually after the fact but that's pretty tedious for per-note data.
And also, it's mostly about capturing more of your performance and being able to play things you couldn't otherwise.
You also need a MPE capable DAW like Bitwig so the data actually reaches the plugin

We may wander a bit away from deals here - sorry

Cheers,

Tom