The Wagtunes Corner (Poll Added)

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What CD Would You Like To Hear Me Do?

Modern Pop (Katy Perry, Taylor Swift, etc.)
2
7%
Classic Rock (Stones, Beatles, Who, Zep)
1
3%
Prog Rock (Yes, Genesis, Kansas, etc.)
5
17%
Show Tunes Style (Sound Of Music, My Fair Lady, etc.)
1
3%
Country (Alan Jackson, Garth Brooks, etc.)
0
No votes
Disco (Bee Gees, Tramps, etc.)
3
10%
Metal (various sub genres)
1
3%
EDM (various sub genres)
3
10%
80s (various genres)
3
10%
Your Music Sucks. Please Stop Making It
10
34%
 
Total votes: 29

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Jace-BeOS
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6156 posts since 7 Jan, 2005 from Corporate States of America

Post Sat May 23, 2020 3:15 pm

wagtunes wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 3:07 pm
Okay, so you basically want me to do a NiN CD.
:lol:

There’s a lot of diversity there, actually. I don’t know if there’s any one “genre” to pin it to, but I’m pretty deeply entrenched in that sound, if there is one.

My absolute favorite album of all time is the double-length “The Fragile”, though the above examples probably don’t at all represent that.

After listening to some of your 80s album, I thought of earlier NIN stuff. I thought: “I wonder what this would sound like if tweaked to be like ‘Pretty Hate Machine’”.

All in fun and good cheer, of course :-)
- dysamoria.com
my music @ SoundCloud

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wagtunes
KVRAF
19049 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

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Post Sat May 23, 2020 3:21 pm

Jace-BeOS wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 3:15 pm
wagtunes wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 3:07 pm
Okay, so you basically want me to do a NiN CD.
:lol:

There’s a lot of diversity there, actually. I don’t know if there’s any one “genre” to pin it to, but I’m pretty deeply entrenched in that sound, if there is one.

My absolute favorite album of all time is the double-length “The Fragile”, though the above examples probably don’t at all represent that.

After listening to some of your 80s album, I thought of earlier NIN stuff. I thought: “I wonder what this would sound like if tweaked to be like ‘Pretty Hate Machine’”.

All in fun and good cheer, of course :-)
Don't get me wrong. I'm a big Trent Reznor fan. But some of the sounds he gets (he's a master synth programmer) I'm not even sure how to do some of that stuff and most synths don't come with NiN patches. They're just too out there. So aside from the songwriting aspect, there's the sonic pallet aspect and I'm just sure I can pull that off.

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Jace-BeOS
KVRAF
6156 posts since 7 Jan, 2005 from Corporate States of America

Re: The Wagtunes Corner (Poll Added)

Post Sat May 23, 2020 3:31 pm

wagtunes wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 3:21 pm
Jace-BeOS wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 3:15 pm
wagtunes wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 3:07 pm
Okay, so you basically want me to do a NiN CD.
:lol:

There’s a lot of diversity there, actually. I don’t know if there’s any one “genre” to pin it to, but I’m pretty deeply entrenched in that sound, if there is one.

My absolute favorite album of all time is the double-length “The Fragile”, though the above examples probably don’t at all represent that.

After listening to some of your 80s album, I thought of earlier NIN stuff. I thought: “I wonder what this would sound like if tweaked to be like ‘Pretty Hate Machine’”.

All in fun and good cheer, of course :-)
Don't get me wrong. I'm a big Trent Reznor fan. But some of the sounds he gets (he's a master synth programmer) I'm not even sure how to do some of that stuff and most synths don't come with NiN patches. They're just too out there. So aside from the songwriting aspect, there's the sonic pallet aspect and I'm just sure I can pull that off.
I’ve been analyzing NIN for ages. The sound effort is clearly an ethos more than a specific technique, and a lot of people put their hands into it over the various albums and eras.

I’ve done some work to emulate it myself (check out my own SoundCloud if you like), and I have enjoyed the following thread over at GearSluts:

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/electro ... ynths.html

Charlie Clouser (and another NIN alumni?) even posted there to offer their recollection on the names of the tools, how they were used/misused/abused, and the various ways in which they all worked at the sounds during the first three or four NIN releases. It’s a fascinating thread for anyone interested in what makes NIN sound like NIN, even if there’s no real answer.
- dysamoria.com
my music @ SoundCloud

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wagtunes
KVRAF
19049 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

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Post Sat May 23, 2020 3:37 pm

Jace-BeOS wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 3:31 pm
wagtunes wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 3:21 pm
Jace-BeOS wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 3:15 pm
wagtunes wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 3:07 pm
Okay, so you basically want me to do a NiN CD.
:lol:

There’s a lot of diversity there, actually. I don’t know if there’s any one “genre” to pin it to, but I’m pretty deeply entrenched in that sound, if there is one.

My absolute favorite album of all time is the double-length “The Fragile”, though the above examples probably don’t at all represent that.

After listening to some of your 80s album, I thought of earlier NIN stuff. I thought: “I wonder what this would sound like if tweaked to be like ‘Pretty Hate Machine’”.

All in fun and good cheer, of course :-)
Don't get me wrong. I'm a big Trent Reznor fan. But some of the sounds he gets (he's a master synth programmer) I'm not even sure how to do some of that stuff and most synths don't come with NiN patches. They're just too out there. So aside from the songwriting aspect, there's the sonic pallet aspect and I'm just sure I can pull that off.
I’ve been analyzing NIN for ages. The sound effort is clearly an ethos more than a specific technique, and a lot of people put their hands into it over the various albums and eras.

I’ve done some work to emulate it myself (check out my own SoundCloud if you like), and I have enjoyed the following thread over at GearSluts:

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/electro ... ynths.html

Charlie Clouser (and another NIN alumni?) even posted there to offer their recollection on the names of the tools, how they were used/misused/abused, and the various ways in which they all worked at the sounds during the first three or four NIN releases. It’s a fascinating thread for anyone interested in what makes NIN sound like NIN, even if there’s no real answer.
It sounds fascinating and I'm all for it (though I don't think I can do NiN justice) but this isn't something that will happen overnight.

But I am going to put it on my to-do list. I'm dead serious. This is one of the few things that I have never tried to tackle.

For obvious reasons.

Music Bird
KVRist
343 posts since 23 Apr, 2017 from Eastern US

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Post Sat May 23, 2020 3:51 pm

This is one of the groups Trent Reznor was in
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BOdEDEy8VCQ
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5m5fKUHMw5c
Very different from NIN.
If I saw you doing any other genre I’d say any foreign genre would be good.
Look up dangdut. It’s influenced by Bollywood and Middle Eastern pop but features predominantly western instruments such as guitar, keyboards, and drum machine.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xG8MGhjQkEw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vljyd1ATvDk
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf5lK_8X7Ew
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LzSBiMP5m58
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VyR_8p4hmAM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j3x63m8Vjww
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_zqlbSevdLw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LLb518dE4NM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zUHn1toPYuA
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dSAaN5iwfQU
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DQeOrjKhojU
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vRazUl9O-c0
I’d like for you to listen to a few of these videos, especially the first and last few. This might be something up your ally. I could see you could do this genre since it uses a mix of live instruments and synths/drum machine mostly or at least accessible synths and drum machines like DX7, D-50, M1, Wavestation, and Technics KN2000 and Alesis and Roland drum Machines.

The lyrics are mostly about broken hearts, sappy love tales, or cheating or basically any love or relationship related themes, as well as some with folk based lyrics and stuff. But they could be about anything.
Synth1, PG8X, Dexed, Sound Canvas VA, FB-3x00 series, blooo, scrooo, qyooo, SQ8L, GTG FM4, DSK Asian and Indian DreamZ, and much more VSTs. Casio, Yamaha, Korg, Alesis HW.

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wagtunes
KVRAF
19049 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

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Post Sat May 23, 2020 3:56 pm

Music Bird wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 3:51 pm
This is one of the groups Trent Reznor was in
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BOdEDEy8VCQ
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5m5fKUHMw5c
Very different from NIN.
If I saw you doing any other genre I’d say any foreign genre would be good.
Look up dangdut. It’s influenced by Bollywood and Middle Eastern pop but features predominantly western instruments such as guitar, keyboards, and drum machine.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xG8MGhjQkEw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vljyd1ATvDk
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf5lK_8X7Ew
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LzSBiMP5m58
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VyR_8p4hmAM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j3x63m8Vjww
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_zqlbSevdLw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LLb518dE4NM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zUHn1toPYuA
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dSAaN5iwfQU
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DQeOrjKhojU
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vRazUl9O-c0
I’d like for you to listen to a few of these videos, especially the first and last few. This might be something up your ally. I could see you could do this genre since it uses a mix of live instruments and synths/drum machine mostly or at least accessible synths and drum machines like DX7, D-50, M1, Wavestation, and Technics KN2000 and Alesis and Roland drum Machines.

The lyrics are mostly about broken hearts, sappy love tales, or cheating or basically any love or relationship related themes, as well as some with folk based lyrics and stuff. But they could be about anything.
Well, I certainly have enough to do now. Thanks.

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Jace-BeOS
KVRAF
6156 posts since 7 Jan, 2005 from Corporate States of America

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Post Sat May 23, 2020 5:37 pm

wagtunes wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 3:37 pm
Jace-BeOS wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 3:31 pm
wagtunes wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 3:21 pm
Jace-BeOS wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 3:15 pm
wagtunes wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 3:07 pm
Okay, so you basically want me to do a NiN CD.
:lol:

There’s a lot of diversity there, actually. I don’t know if there’s any one “genre” to pin it to, but I’m pretty deeply entrenched in that sound, if there is one.

My absolute favorite album of all time is the double-length “The Fragile”, though the above examples probably don’t at all represent that.

After listening to some of your 80s album, I thought of earlier NIN stuff. I thought: “I wonder what this would sound like if tweaked to be like ‘Pretty Hate Machine’”.

All in fun and good cheer, of course :-)
Don't get me wrong. I'm a big Trent Reznor fan. But some of the sounds he gets (he's a master synth programmer) I'm not even sure how to do some of that stuff and most synths don't come with NiN patches. They're just too out there. So aside from the songwriting aspect, there's the sonic pallet aspect and I'm just sure I can pull that off.
I’ve been analyzing NIN for ages. The sound effort is clearly an ethos more than a specific technique, and a lot of people put their hands into it over the various albums and eras.

I’ve done some work to emulate it myself (check out my own SoundCloud if you like), and I have enjoyed the following thread over at GearSluts:

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/electro ... ynths.html

Charlie Clouser (and another NIN alumni?) even posted there to offer their recollection on the names of the tools, how they were used/misused/abused, and the various ways in which they all worked at the sounds during the first three or four NIN releases. It’s a fascinating thread for anyone interested in what makes NIN sound like NIN, even if there’s no real answer.
It sounds fascinating and I'm all for it (though I don't think I can do NiN justice) but this isn't something that will happen overnight.

But I am going to put it on my to-do list. I'm dead serious. This is one of the few things that I have never tried to tackle.

For obvious reasons.
Let me know if you want a vocalist for something. I’d be happy to give it a shot. :-)

I find it terribly difficult to put words/lyrics and songs together, though I’ve made plenty of each separately. So it might be a fun experiment to sing someone else’s stuff again (especially if you’ve got a model of what you want via a vocaloid temp track).
- dysamoria.com
my music @ SoundCloud

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wagtunes
KVRAF
19049 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

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Post Sun May 24, 2020 2:31 am

Jace-BeOS wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 5:37 pm
wagtunes wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 3:37 pm
Jace-BeOS wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 3:31 pm
wagtunes wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 3:21 pm
Jace-BeOS wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 3:15 pm
wagtunes wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 3:07 pm
Okay, so you basically want me to do a NiN CD.
:lol:

There’s a lot of diversity there, actually. I don’t know if there’s any one “genre” to pin it to, but I’m pretty deeply entrenched in that sound, if there is one.

My absolute favorite album of all time is the double-length “The Fragile”, though the above examples probably don’t at all represent that.

After listening to some of your 80s album, I thought of earlier NIN stuff. I thought: “I wonder what this would sound like if tweaked to be like ‘Pretty Hate Machine’”.

All in fun and good cheer, of course :-)
Don't get me wrong. I'm a big Trent Reznor fan. But some of the sounds he gets (he's a master synth programmer) I'm not even sure how to do some of that stuff and most synths don't come with NiN patches. They're just too out there. So aside from the songwriting aspect, there's the sonic pallet aspect and I'm just sure I can pull that off.
I’ve been analyzing NIN for ages. The sound effort is clearly an ethos more than a specific technique, and a lot of people put their hands into it over the various albums and eras.

I’ve done some work to emulate it myself (check out my own SoundCloud if you like), and I have enjoyed the following thread over at GearSluts:

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/electro ... ynths.html

Charlie Clouser (and another NIN alumni?) even posted there to offer their recollection on the names of the tools, how they were used/misused/abused, and the various ways in which they all worked at the sounds during the first three or four NIN releases. It’s a fascinating thread for anyone interested in what makes NIN sound like NIN, even if there’s no real answer.
It sounds fascinating and I'm all for it (though I don't think I can do NiN justice) but this isn't something that will happen overnight.

But I am going to put it on my to-do list. I'm dead serious. This is one of the few things that I have never tried to tackle.

For obvious reasons.
Let me know if you want a vocalist for something. I’d be happy to give it a shot. :-)

I find it terribly difficult to put words/lyrics and songs together, though I’ve made plenty of each separately. So it might be a fun experiment to sing someone else’s stuff again (especially if you’ve got a model of what you want via a vocaloid temp track).
I'll definitely let you know if I need help with anything.

In the meantime, have you seen the poll, all the people who voted "My music sucks. Stop making it?" :lol:

I never knew I had so many loyal fans. :lol:

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Jace-BeOS
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6156 posts since 7 Jan, 2005 from Corporate States of America

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Post Sun May 24, 2020 8:10 am

wagtunes wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 2:31 am
In the meantime, have you seen the poll, all the people who voted "My music sucks. Stop making it?" :lol:

I never knew I had so many loyal fans. :lol:
I haven’t voted and the forum won’t do anything when I select view results (it just rolls that link away and no results are shown).

I don’t think I’d give that option to people if I made such a poll. I’d hate to see how many people would choose it even as a joke. :oops:
- dysamoria.com
my music @ SoundCloud

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wagtunes
KVRAF
19049 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

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Post Sun May 24, 2020 8:14 am

Jace-BeOS wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 8:10 am
wagtunes wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 2:31 am
In the meantime, have you seen the poll, all the people who voted "My music sucks. Stop making it?" :lol:

I never knew I had so many loyal fans. :lol:
I haven’t voted and the forum won’t do anything when I select view results (it just rolls that link away and no results are shown).

I don’t think I’d give that option to people if I made such a poll. I’d hate to see how many people would choose it even as a joke. :oops:
In order to see the results, you actually have to vote. Even I had to vote to see the results. Don't understand why though.

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vurt
addled muppet weed
64897 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

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Post Sun May 24, 2020 8:30 am

country gets nil points! :hihi:

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wagtunes
KVRAF
19049 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

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Post Sun May 24, 2020 8:33 am

vurt wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 8:30 am
country gets nil points! :hihi:
Does that surprise you in THIS forum?

I've actually done several country CDs over the course of 43 years. My most recent one "A Whole Lotta Country" that featured this gem.

https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... und-vocals

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vurt
addled muppet weed
64897 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

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Post Sun May 24, 2020 8:36 am

:lol:

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Jace-BeOS
KVRAF
6156 posts since 7 Jan, 2005 from Corporate States of America

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Post Sun May 24, 2020 8:51 am

I admit I’ve no interest in country. That’s just how I feel about it and I try not to judge an entire world of music per only my tastes (nor the people who enjoy said music). It just isn’t for me.

I’ve no use for a lot of music, it seems. It impresses me when people are able and willing to experiment with many genres, it’s just never been how I function (and that’s probably a bad thing).
- dysamoria.com
my music @ SoundCloud

empphryio
KVRist
168 posts since 14 Apr, 2019

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Post Sun May 24, 2020 8:56 am

wagtunes wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 8:33 am
vurt wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 8:30 am
country gets nil points! :hihi:
Does that surprise you in THIS forum?

I've actually done several country CDs over the course of 43 years. My most recent one "A Whole Lotta Country" that featured this gem.

https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... und-vocals
Now that's some impressive range. Although you don't sound humble enough. Country music is about letting everyone know how humble you are.

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