Monastery Grand

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12182 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic

Post Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:01 am

m_king1 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:43 am
Any tips please on how to get this to work without stuttering/dropouts on a slightly older laptop? The CPU benchmark seems to say I could run 11 instances at once, but even one is struggling. I've tried the obvious tweaks of sample rate and polyphony to no great benefit. Many thanks.
Try increasing preloading in Settings. What exact computer and audio settings do you have btw?
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m_king1
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2 posts since 30 Sep, 2018

Re: Monastery Grand

Post Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:05 am

Thanks for the quick reply. Rather than take up too much of your time, I suspect I may have found the root cause, which you may be able to validate. Looking in Task Manager whilst playing the VST3i in Reaper 6, the CPU seems to be managing ok but the disk transfer rate is maxing out. It probably shouldn't surprise me that a conventional HDD, somewhat old and fragmented, might struggle loading such detailed samples. I did try increasing the preload as suggested, but with only 4Gb of RAM installed that didn't seem to make a huge difference. I had been thinking of upgrading to a SSD anyway, do you think that's likely to make a big difference?
Many thanks again.

mibby
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164 posts since 11 Jul, 2016

Re: Monastery Grand

Post Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:41 am

m_king1 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:05 am
...but with only 4Gb of RAM installed that didn't seem to make a huge difference. I had been thinking of upgrading to a SSD anyway, do you think that's likely to make a big difference?
YES!!! 1000 times YES! Only, you'll be kicking yourself because you haven't switched to an SSD sooner. SSD's have extended the life of my DAW PCs way beyond where they should be. I'm still getting by on an i3 CPU!

That, and RAM is easy/cheap to upgrade -- unless you're still on a 32b OS. :D

AGIGA
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92 posts since 2 May, 2015

Re: Monastery Grand

Post Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:03 am

+1 You'll be amazed what a difference it makes.

zyzygis
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112 posts since 27 Sep, 2006

Re: Monastery Grand

Post Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:38 am

The piano is very beautiful and very versatile in its range of sounds.
I like the interface and the sound editing options are well setup.
I haven’t found the player version of the plugin anywhere and was only able to install the demo of the full version, that’s the only one I can find in the installer.

mibby
KVRist
164 posts since 11 Jul, 2016

Re: Monastery Grand

Post Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:46 am

MSoundFactoryPlayer...you get it simply by letting MSoundFactory trial expire.
From the MSoundFactoryLE page (lower right): https://www.meldaproduction.com/MSoundFactoryLE

GusGranite
KVRist
63 posts since 18 Feb, 2019

Re: Monastery Grand

Post Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:35 am

What a fantastic and generous release. Thank you, Melda Productions!

WasteLand
KVRian
835 posts since 8 Jun, 2018

Re: Monastery Grand

Post Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:44 am

m_king1 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:43 am
Any tips please on how to get this to work without stuttering/dropouts on a slightly older laptop? The CPU benchmark seems to say I could run 11 instances at once, but even one is struggling. I've tried the obvious tweaks of sample rate and polyphony to no great benefit. Many thanks.
it has to do with memory... it takes a lot of memory... make the preload of samples (in settings) bigger, but don't forget windows/mac OS usage, DAW usage, etc.
on 32gb rig, it isn't a problem, 16gb will also be doable i think.
win 10 pro; cubase 10.5 pro, live 10 suite+push 2, reaper, reason 11 suite, bitwig studio 3, maschine mk3+jam, arturia V collection 7, korg collection, komplete 11 ultimate, softube modular, VM, meldaproduction etc.
https://soundcloud.com/sada-exposada

Nochops
KVRer
2 posts since 26 Jan, 2018

Re: Monastery Grand

Post Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:48 am

It's free, but I can't recommend this for serious players unless they fix the warts. I've just played it a little and noticed this for starters: C6 volume drops off too suddenly if you play it and hold it for a few seconds, adjacent notes don't do this. Volume on some notes is inconsistent - E5 is much louder than adjacent notes when played at the same velocity. I assume if I kept on looking for things I'd probably find a lot more similar problems. Too bad, because the sound is pretty good. Might be good if you're playing rock and don't care about these issues. For free piano vsts, I prefer the full version of Salamander piano.

zyzygis
KVRist
112 posts since 27 Sep, 2006

Re: Monastery Grand

Post Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:34 am

[quote=mibby post_id=7817643 time=1593532013 user_id=382346]
[quote]MSoundFactoryPlayer...you get it simply by letting MSoundFactory trial expire.[/quote]

From the MSoundFactoryLE page (lower right): https://www.meldaproduction.com/MSoundFactoryLE
[/quote]

Ahh, thanks, that explains it. I didn’t read about letting the trial expire.

masitito
KVRist
210 posts since 4 Jun, 2016

Re: Monastery Grand

Post Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:02 am

Nochops wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:48 am
It's free, but I can't recommend this for serious players unless they fix the warts. I've just played it a little and noticed this for starters: C6 volume drops off too suddenly if you play it and hold it for a few seconds, adjacent notes don't do this. Volume on some notes is inconsistent - E5 is much louder than adjacent notes when played at the same velocity. I assume if I kept on looking for things I'd probably find a lot more similar problems.
Go on and report them. Maybe they can be fixed and the MG will end up in the list of "best free pianos".

Masi

Hexspa
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158 posts since 12 May, 2019

Re: Monastery Grand

Post Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:10 am

I noticed that the notes don't sound when playing very softly. Then again, I'm lucky my keyboard works after my ham-fisted repairs. Just thought I'd mention it. Piano sounds cool tho. Moody.

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