Absolutely!andypryce wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:06 pmYes that is why I said I use both methods. I am not favoring one way to the other. I almost always perform and record and then sometimes play around in PR but sometimes I just draw notes. For example I just draw a house bass line with 3 chords and copy paste that goes 128 bars. There is nothing sophisticated about playing it live. It is just faster to draw in and copy paste. Likewise for me there is no point trying to create a complex piano performance by drawing the notes in. I can just play it faster.Passing Bye wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:58 pmYou can actually play something you couldn't even reach that easily drawing, happy accident are faster and more to expect playing keyboard than doing tedious drawing, but whatever floats your boats.andypryce wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:47 pm You can draw in something that you wouldn't think of playing and would come out pretty good.
For me putting in notes to PR is no different than writing them on paper or Sibelius.
Another DAW with piano roll as great as FL Studio?
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- KVRAF
- 2989 posts since 5 Nov, 2014
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 875 posts since 26 May, 2009 from Area 51
Wow, lots of healthy discussion here
Thanks for the feedback and suggestions.
My favorite part of FL Studio is the simple MIDI editing. That's it. I want to try a lane based DAW. Naturally I would love for the new DAW to have just at great, simple MIDI editing. This is irrelevant to what level of musical ability I have. At some point, anybody recording into MIDI will be editing the data to some degree.
Anyhow, Studio One is pretty close. Reaper is even more close, it just takes some options configuration. Even though it's the least close to FL Studio's MIDI editing from what I've tried, I've mostly been working with Cubase lately and I am getting use to it. It isn't too difficult. It is forcing me to learn to use the keyboard for shortcuts a lot more now. It's still more steps than FL Studio requires but I really like the layout and mediabay browser
My favorite part of FL Studio is the simple MIDI editing. That's it. I want to try a lane based DAW. Naturally I would love for the new DAW to have just at great, simple MIDI editing. This is irrelevant to what level of musical ability I have. At some point, anybody recording into MIDI will be editing the data to some degree.
Anyhow, Studio One is pretty close. Reaper is even more close, it just takes some options configuration. Even though it's the least close to FL Studio's MIDI editing from what I've tried, I've mostly been working with Cubase lately and I am getting use to it. It isn't too difficult. It is forcing me to learn to use the keyboard for shortcuts a lot more now. It's still more steps than FL Studio requires but I really like the layout and mediabay browser
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 875 posts since 26 May, 2009 from Area 51
duplicate. please delete.
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- KVRAF
- 1524 posts since 6 Nov, 2012
I kinda relate to this. Gol did great job balancing between features and intuitiveness on piano roll.GMusic wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:59 am My favorite part of FL Studio is the simple MIDI editing. That's it.
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- KVRAF
- 2989 posts since 5 Nov, 2014
Use whatever makes most sense to you, you will always miss some features nonetheless, at least for me it's important my DAW become kinda invisible and I just make music without much tinkering with it.GMusic wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:59 am Anyhow, Studio One is pretty close. Reaper is even more close, it just takes some options configuration. Even though it's the least close to FL Studio's MIDI editing from what I've tried, I've mostly been working with Cubase lately and I am getting use to it. It isn't too difficult. It is forcing me to learn to use the keyboard for shortcuts a lot more now. It's still more steps than FL Studio requires but I really like the layout and mediabay browser![]()
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 875 posts since 26 May, 2009 from Area 51
Yes he did. If DAWs had this simple setup, it would be great:
Left click on empty space = insert note
Left click on note = selects note
Right click on note = deletes note
Shift, left click and drag = selects multiple notes
Left click and hold on selected notes = move notes around
Left click on selected notes' edge = resize
Shift and right click on selected note/notes = menu (for mirror, reverse, editors, etc.)
Can anybody find a technical issue, or faster suggestion (less clicks), regarding the above?
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- KVRAF
- 5144 posts since 3 Oct, 2013
the problem isn't(or not just the) the piano roll but the absence of the modulation (internal controllers) in other DAWs (except Bitwig, Reason) and their note key mapping possibilities
but it would be another topic.
https://www.admiralbumblebee.com/music/ ... ation.html
or the absence of the mapping formulas https://unaspectedstudios.wordpress.com ... -formulas/ (also modulation related)
ps. sorry it's Hungarian but just check how modulation/automation things above go in traditionally DAWs
from 1:00 - > compared to FL above (if you love to draw automation lines manually then ok, but for me no thx
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but it would be another topic.
https://www.admiralbumblebee.com/music/ ... ation.html
or the absence of the mapping formulas https://unaspectedstudios.wordpress.com ... -formulas/ (also modulation related)
ps. sorry it's Hungarian but just check how modulation/automation things above go in traditionally DAWs
from 1:00 - > compared to FL above (if you love to draw automation lines manually then ok, but for me no thx
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat
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- KVRAF
- 2989 posts since 5 Nov, 2014
Nvmnd