Yes. But they have to write the drivers. There is potential for problems.pdxindy wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:59 am I read somewhere that Apple said that the Apple Silicon Macs will support Thunderbolt.
u-he on Apple silicon (Updated)
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- KVRian
- 548 posts since 25 Mar, 2008
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david.beholder david.beholder https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=159839
- KVRAF
- 1914 posts since 13 Sep, 2007
They would just drop support of old devices -- like they did with docks and that's it.
Murderous duck!
- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 30188 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Yeah, I won't post anything about that. The first official Macs on Apple Silicon will use a new generation of CPUs anyway.
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- KVRAF
- 2875 posts since 28 Jan, 2004 from Da Nang, Vietnam
This is great news. I've been wondering how many audio devs will make the jump. Zebra is the main thing I'd be afraid to lose if moving to one of the new machines. I'm very curious what performance is going to be like. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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- KVRAF
- 2623 posts since 20 Oct, 2014
@Urs What is the minimum required macos version for those ARM supporting universal executables builds? Will those still run on 10.13?
- u-he
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- 30188 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Most certainly. If not, we'll have two installers. We'll most likely manage to support down below 10.12 afaikHanz Meyzer wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:05 am @Urs What is the minimum required macos version for those ARM supporting universal executables builds? Will those still run on 10.13?
Btw, the GUI performance fix for Zebra you pointed us to does not work for Hive (or anything with a scope, where it's actually slower). Hence, we made it optional in a hidden preference. So when we release Zebra 2.9.2 (not Arm yet) next week or so, you might want to locate the preferences file in the user library, open it in Textedit and set "Cocoa draws asynchronously" to "YES". Run it once first, then close the host, then edit the file.
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- KVRAF
- 2623 posts since 20 Oct, 2014
Neat
thanks.
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machinesworking machinesworking https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8505
- KVRAF
- 7986 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
Considering Apple was involved in the conception and execution of thunderbolt, I would say you have nothing to worry about.
- u-he
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- 30188 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Little Update Oct 27th 2020: It's looking very good. Neither Rosetta complains about running our Intel Plug-Ins on Apple Silicon, nor do we experience issues with our natively compiled plug-ins - which, well, compile just fine (but are not yet integrated in our automated workflow). We'll post news as we go, e.g. once we have beta versions in a few weeks or so.
- u-he
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- 30188 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
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- KVRist
- 176 posts since 20 May, 2014
Just bumping this with the M1 silicon now out. Can we get some more info/detail about the performance (Diva et al) now that this is out in the wild? How does it compare to the Intel performance etc?
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- 30188 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
We're ordering M1 Macs today. I'll let you guys know asap.
Our builds for Arm are coming along nicely, too, I'm sure we'll soon see betas and releases including native support for Apple Silicon.
Our builds for Arm are coming along nicely, too, I'm sure we'll soon see betas and releases including native support for Apple Silicon.
