Vember Audio Surge is now open-source
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gentleclockdivider gentleclockdivider https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=203660
- KVRAF
- 6112 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent
So no vst 2 support , but only vst 3 ( even for 32 bit ) ?
Imho I think there are a lot more users running vst 2 in a 64 bit environment , then vst 3 in a 32 bit environment
What I am missing ?
Imho I think there are a lot more users running vst 2 in a 64 bit environment , then vst 3 in a 32 bit environment
What I am missing ?
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- KVRAF
- 23102 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
This was explained a few times already in the thread, please look back a few pages. VST2 is still in the codebase and you can build it yourself if you have properly licensed VST2 SDK.
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- KVRian
- 845 posts since 25 Dec, 2018
By steinberg’s choice to discontinue VST2 (which is totally within their rights), VST2 is not a format where software developers can obtain a license, nor is it a format which is compatible with GPL3. https://surge-synthesizer.github.io/formats
If you are a valid VST2 licensee you can still build the VST2 yourself.
If you are a valid VST2 licensee you can still build the VST2 yourself.
- KVRAF
- 1943 posts since 17 Jun, 2005
So, a little trip report on the libxcb-util1 thing and Debian Buster: building Surge on your chosen system, using the included build script, is indeed extremely streamlined and straightfoward like baconpaul noted. Thumbs up for that. The synth functions in a libxcb-util0 equipped environment without any issues. To be sure, I'd recommend this way of installing over any hacky package juggling, on vanilla Debian and related distros.
That being said, I did roll a test box for the latter approach as well ... I noticed there's a certain Steven Pusser who has kindly ported libxcb-util1 for Debian 9 (Stretch) based systems (you can google more on this if so inclined, packages here https://software.opensuse.org//download ... bxcb-util1 ), and rather adventurously I went and installed that single package... yes, on Buster. To be completely sure, this sort of thing is not encouraged, and as a general approach, mixing and matching in this manner is a Bad Idea and will break stuff.
In any case, giving this test system a spin on a wide variety of production software, I didn't encounter any indications of problems at this time, and juggling stuff like this is a potential quick way out when you're really really needing to run something -- as long as you know what you are doing and have reasonably covered your back, for example having an MX Linux style Snapshot of your box with your juggle installed and without it, for quick and convenient rollback.
(Having the actual util1 package around, on an otherwise compatible system, also allows you to run the fresh Kawai K1 emulation Linux VST, for example, which also wants to install on a libxcb-util1 equipped system by default, and so on.)
That being said, I did roll a test box for the latter approach as well ... I noticed there's a certain Steven Pusser who has kindly ported libxcb-util1 for Debian 9 (Stretch) based systems (you can google more on this if so inclined, packages here https://software.opensuse.org//download ... bxcb-util1 ), and rather adventurously I went and installed that single package... yes, on Buster. To be completely sure, this sort of thing is not encouraged, and as a general approach, mixing and matching in this manner is a Bad Idea and will break stuff.
In any case, giving this test system a spin on a wide variety of production software, I didn't encounter any indications of problems at this time, and juggling stuff like this is a potential quick way out when you're really really needing to run something -- as long as you know what you are doing and have reasonably covered your back, for example having an MX Linux style Snapshot of your box with your juggle installed and without it, for quick and convenient rollback.
(Having the actual util1 package around, on an otherwise compatible system, also allows you to run the fresh Kawai K1 emulation Linux VST, for example, which also wants to install on a libxcb-util1 equipped system by default, and so on.)
- KVRAF
- 8828 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
I got the same message, and looked at those two places. Its a bit confusing, as it seems the files in my local library had been installed with the last installer, and those in the global library are the older ones (mainly from 2019). I moved the new ones to the global library and Surge seems happy.onerob wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:28 pmThanks. I trashed it and that's fixed it.baconpaul wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:07 pmYou seem to have a local copy of the application settings which will indeed blow you up. Remove or rename the directory “/Users/(redacted)/Library/Application Support/Surge” in preference of the one in /Library and it should all work.onerob wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:50 pmHere's the About panel. I've found skins, including the dark skin, installed at /Library/Application Support/Surge.baconpaul wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:31 pmThis means your application support/surge data is incorrect. Can you attach a screenshot of "help/about"? And when you ran the installer, did it successfully install /Library/Application Support/Surge and does that directory contain skins?onerob wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:07 pm I'm getting a warning about the default skin not being installed, although it looks fine to me. I tried to rescan for skins from the menu but I get even more warnings. Plus, I don't see a dark skin installed.
I installed the AU. Should I also install the VST to get the skins working properly?
Screenshot 2020-07-28 at 22.03.56.png
I should improve that error message too.
about.png
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But I interpret this as a bug in the installer, it seems to copy its content to the local library, but the plugin looks for its resources in the global library...
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- KVRian
- 845 posts since 25 Dec, 2018
@TJ Shredder - I'm super surprised the installer did a local install. https://github.com/surge-synthesizer/su ... ostinstall that's the post install script and it copies to /Library. So not sure how you would have gotten new in the ~/Library. Also, the plugin looks in local first, so if it broke, that means local was wrong not global? I think older installers might have installed locally, and definitely the build scripts install locally when you are doing dev.
But in any case, in the upcoming 1.7.1 release the synth checks for which set of assets is newest and uses those by default if it finds both. This should resolve the various states of peoples machine issues which have popped up here and there. My guess is we do a 1.7.1 point release this weekend. The current nightly has that behavior.
Thanks!
But in any case, in the upcoming 1.7.1 release the synth checks for which set of assets is newest and uses those by default if it finds both. This should resolve the various states of peoples machine issues which have popped up here and there. My guess is we do a 1.7.1 point release this weekend. The current nightly has that behavior.
Thanks!
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- KVRist
- 41 posts since 22 Sep, 2019
Yes, that could of course be the case. I don't know enough about LinPlug to say whether they would be interested to release anything as open source, but I mentioned them because they seem to have completely shut down business so it struck me that they might be a more realistic option than some other developers.EvilDragon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:16 amAbsolutely, but somehow I don't think that'll happen. I still use Spectral and Albino 3...monkeygenius wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:36 am I think it would be cool if LinPlug could be convinced to make (at least some of) their plugins open source too. I've really like Alpha for instance, and it's a shame that it's not possible to get it any more.
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- KVRAF
- 2802 posts since 31 Aug, 2011
Found some strangeness with the step sequencer.
It sorta mirrors the previous steps after loop end.
Version 1.5.2 does not do that.
See GIF for details.
I assume this is not intentional so i thought id report it...
It sorta mirrors the previous steps after loop end.
Version 1.5.2 does not do that.
See GIF for details.
I assume this is not intentional so i thought id report it...
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grandmasterbird grandmasterbird https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=134988
- KVRist
- 363 posts since 7 Jan, 2007
I can't believe this synth is freely downloadable, it's amazing! I'm obviously very late to the party but thank you to the team who put the work in to keep it going. Anywhere to make a donation?
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- KVRian
- 845 posts since 25 Dec, 2018
That’s actually intentional. And 1.5.2 does do that just the display doesn’t show it. With 1.7.0 we added the white line which shows what the SS will actually output. (Play with deform and you’ll see it). So when you have set end points the wave will loop across the time span rendered on the screen.
Since 1.5.2 (and 1.6.* for that matter) just showed the steps but not the output (Try deform on those and you will see no change) you couldn’t visualize the actually display.
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- KVRian
- 845 posts since 25 Dec, 2018
Thanks! We don’t take donations. Happy you enjoy the synth!grandmasterbird wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:10 pm I can't believe this synth is freely downloadable, it's amazing! I'm obviously very late to the party but thank you to the team who put the work in to keep it going. Anywhere to make a donation?
- Banned
- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
If similar development would be possible with Atlantis by Jeremy Evers, it could be one of the greatest free synths (and filter units). But fiddling around with these tiny envelopes is tedious...
Anyway, a big thanks for the big update of Surge!
Anyway, a big thanks for the big update of Surge!
- Banned
- 7624 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway
I dont think Atlantis is open source though?
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- KVRAF
- 4278 posts since 6 Nov, 2009
no, but it has an x64 version now... wow https://jeremyevers.com/atlantis/
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- KVRAF
- 2802 posts since 31 Aug, 2011
I think i understand.baconpaul wrote: That’s actually intentional. And 1.5.2 does do that just the display doesn’t show it. With 1.7.0 we added the white line which shows what the SS will actually output.
Its to visualize how the steps are enveloped by the EG.
What made me wonder was the fact that the (active) steps on the left got mirrored on the right (inactive) side, but i think i get the idea now.
Thank you.