Shimmer VS ShimmerVerb
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- KVRist
- 167 posts since 30 Oct, 2009
How about their own Crystallizer (or the one from Soundtoys, for that matter)?
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- KVRAF
- 2841 posts since 12 May, 2004 from Oxford, UK
I assume you mean Valhalla's Shimmer vs Eventide's Shimmer. I've used the Shimmer H9 algo which they seem to have ported.
For me the big difference is that Eventide's Shimmer allows you indepently set the pitch shifts. So on Valhallas you can have an octave+ down, a fitth up and down and so one. But the Eventide allows you an octave up and a fifth down etc.
Eventide's Crystals is somewhat different from memory being more like Sound toys Crystallizer.
For me the big difference is that Eventide's Shimmer allows you indepently set the pitch shifts. So on Valhallas you can have an octave+ down, a fitth up and down and so one. But the Eventide allows you an octave up and a fifth down etc.
Eventide's Crystals is somewhat different from memory being more like Sound toys Crystallizer.
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- KVRAF
- 3089 posts since 4 May, 2012
I believe XenoVerb's shimmer mode is based on the Eventide algorithm, also allowing for adjustment of two pitch shifted taps with independent ranges of +/- 24 semitones.
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- KVRAF
- 6828 posts since 28 Apr, 2004 from france
ToneBooster Reverb features both LFO and a dual pich-shifter, so you may add this to your list, too.
Also, Tritik Irid is very nice (and features a frequency shifter along with two pitch shifters).
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- KVRian
- 653 posts since 13 May, 2017 from Virginia
Don't see the point in this one. Why not feed any reverb of choice into a pitch shifter? It doesn't sound like the reverb they chose is especially interesting. That said I usually my GAS is flaring up bigtime so I might have to get it to keep my collection complete.
- Banned
- 1792 posts since 8 Sep, 2019 from Calenberg
I already have Xenoverb, I think I'll skip this Eventide offer.Unaspected wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:59 pm I believe XenoVerb's shimmer mode is based on the Eventide algorithm, also allowing for adjustment of two pitch shifted taps with independent ranges of +/- 24 semitones.
Wrong?
https://youtu.be/fhnrrLxQEVQ
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- KVRAF
- 3089 posts since 4 May, 2012
Only you can decide that. Some seem to feel a need to have a broad selection of plugins whilst I favour a restrictive choice - until I hear something unique and wonderful, of course.Calenberger wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:36 pmI already have Xenoverb, I think I'll skip this Eventide offer.Unaspected wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:59 pm I believe XenoVerb's shimmer mode is based on the Eventide algorithm, also allowing for adjustment of two pitch shifted taps with independent ranges of +/- 24 semitones.
Wrong?
https://youtu.be/fhnrrLxQEVQ
There is one bug that you just reminded me of. I have yet to report because it wasn't anything major: The titles for the two variables that are program specific will sometimes revert to their initial names, though their functions remain the same. It's only marginally irritating - though I also set everything by ear, rather than numeric value. I can imagine it being an issue for those needing a numeric readout.Vortifex wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:16 pm Tried the Eventide ShimmerVerb demo. Quite a dark sound and a narrow stereo field and no controllable pitch modulation (aside from the shimmer). Can do some interesting things with the dual pitch but overall I wasn't really feeling this one.
The shimmer in Xenoverb is quite nice but the plugin is buggy as hell.
Other than that, there was an early bug that I read about regarding project recall of settings for VST3 but that has been fixed.
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- KVRAF
- 4712 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder
Blackhole is so lush - I can't imagine this new shimmer reverb would suck. I just bought Tritik Irid and already I'm thinking about more shimverb
- KVRAF
- 7750 posts since 13 Jan, 2003 from Darkest Kent, UK
The classic shimmer isn't just reverb into a pitch shifter, that would be a pretty static sound. The output of the the shifter is fed back into the reverb so it's reverbed and shifted again (and again, and again...) That's what's gets you the distinctive blooming, build up of high (or low) frequencies.functionform wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:27 pm Don't see the point in this one. Why not feed any reverb of choice into a pitch shifter?
You can do it yourself with routing in your daw but I've found you need to carefully tune it to get decent results (adding eq and compressors to help control the sound etc). Sometimes more efficient to let someone else do the hard work.
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- KVRian
- 653 posts since 13 May, 2017 from Virginia
Damnit ok. I'll add it to the collection.