Shimmer VS ShimmerVerb

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Alright,

How do they compare?

I love Shimmer but the idea of having something comparable that I can modulate in real time is very very very appealing.

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How about their own Crystallizer (or the one from Soundtoys, for that matter)?
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I assume you mean Valhalla's Shimmer vs Eventide's Shimmer. I've used the Shimmer H9 algo which they seem to have ported.

For me the big difference is that Eventide's Shimmer allows you indepently set the pitch shifts. So on Valhallas you can have an octave+ down, a fitth up and down and so one. But the Eventide allows you an octave up and a fifth down etc.

Eventide's Crystals is somewhat different from memory being more like Sound toys Crystallizer.
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I believe XenoVerb's shimmer mode is based on the Eventide algorithm, also allowing for adjustment of two pitch shifted taps with independent ranges of +/- 24 semitones.

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Judging by the demo video - Valhalla Shimmer sounds to my ears more spacious than this one...or Eventide makes bad demos. :)

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nathanj wrote: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:51 amthe idea of having something comparable that I can modulate in real time is very very very appealing.
ToneBooster Reverb features both LFO and a dual pich-shifter, so you may add this to your list, too.

Also, Tritik Irid is very nice (and features a frequency shifter along with two pitch shifters).

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Don't see the point in this one. Why not feed any reverb of choice into a pitch shifter? It doesn't sound like the reverb they chose is especially interesting. That said I usually my GAS is flaring up bigtime so I might have to get it to keep my collection complete.

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Unaspected wrote: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:59 pm I believe XenoVerb's shimmer mode is based on the Eventide algorithm, also allowing for adjustment of two pitch shifted taps with independent ranges of +/- 24 semitones.
I already have Xenoverb, I think I'll skip this Eventide offer.
Wrong?
https://youtu.be/fhnrrLxQEVQ

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Calenberger wrote: Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:36 pm
Unaspected wrote: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:59 pm I believe XenoVerb's shimmer mode is based on the Eventide algorithm, also allowing for adjustment of two pitch shifted taps with independent ranges of +/- 24 semitones.
I already have Xenoverb, I think I'll skip this Eventide offer.
Wrong?
https://youtu.be/fhnrrLxQEVQ
Only you can decide that. Some seem to feel a need to have a broad selection of plugins whilst I favour a restrictive choice - until I hear something unique and wonderful, of course.

Vortifex wrote: Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:16 pm Tried the Eventide ShimmerVerb demo. Quite a dark sound and a narrow stereo field and no controllable pitch modulation (aside from the shimmer). Can do some interesting things with the dual pitch but overall I wasn't really feeling this one.

The shimmer in Xenoverb is quite nice but the plugin is buggy as hell.
There is one bug that you just reminded me of. I have yet to report because it wasn't anything major: The titles for the two variables that are program specific will sometimes revert to their initial names, though their functions remain the same. It's only marginally irritating - though I also set everything by ear, rather than numeric value. I can imagine it being an issue for those needing a numeric readout.

Other than that, there was an early bug that I read about regarding project recall of settings for VST3 but that has been fixed.

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Blackhole is so lush - I can't imagine this new shimmer reverb would suck. I just bought Tritik Irid and already I'm thinking about more shimverb :dog:

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Damn tritik irid looks really nice. And very competitively priced at $50 too. I don't think I'd even heard of tritik before this. Seems like quality stuff

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functionform wrote: Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:27 pm Don't see the point in this one. Why not feed any reverb of choice into a pitch shifter?
The classic shimmer isn't just reverb into a pitch shifter, that would be a pretty static sound. The output of the the shifter is fed back into the reverb so it's reverbed and shifted again (and again, and again...) That's what's gets you the distinctive blooming, build up of high (or low) frequencies.

You can do it yourself with routing in your daw but I've found you need to carefully tune it to get decent results (adding eq and compressors to help control the sound etc). Sometimes more efficient to let someone else do the hard work. :)

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Damnit ok. I'll add it to the collection.

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Just add a pitch shifter to your regular reverb.
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